Police interviewing Caroline Farrow under caution and threatening to arrest her for "misgendering"

[Pimmsnlemonade]

twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1107787009614065664

And, as she says in the thread:

"Meanwhile a group of people have terrified and harassed my family. Doxed my children, made violent and sexual threats, signed me up to porn accounts, did the same to my husband, threatened to visit here. And tumbleweed..."

Actually, fair dues, I note that response is to Katie Hopkins so neither are average tweeters!

I'm not convinced that Jackie Green has been actively pushing their media presence over recent times. An Internet search will provide plenty of results but those largely (wholly?) seem to be as a result of what has happened in the past, or other people being active in the present who are related to JG or who refer to JG.

Yep that’s our India, eloquent to the last.

The Mermaids statement outlines the offending tweets. Mermaids are using this in their defence! 'It wasn't just misgendering, it was criticism of illegal hormones and surgery.' Do they think this makes them look better? It's even worse and I'd imagine drawing attention to it won't go well for SG.

I don't think the publishing of those tweets is going to have the effect SG and Mermaids intended, all they do is confirm the illegality under UK law of what SG did and expose why Mermaids are desperately trying to change current UK law to validate the actions of their CEO.

Sunlight is finally falling onto this agenda.

Yes the overall story of 'helping an unhappy child' is somewhat sullied by the actual events.

That mermaids statement is hilarious. I assume Susie wrote that herself?

I feel a bit sorry for people like India

I don't. Willoughby is a horrible, toxic individual.

it was criticism of illegal hormones and surgery

Does it really say that

Just wanted to add my and DH’s support to Caroline.

Some of the statement is true:

In essence, the public discussion about this issue has been wrongly directed.

The fact that not a single item in the media about this matter has actually quoted the tweets also speaks for itself.

The actual tweets and their content weren't discovered/disclosed before many articles were written.

As to the motivation... that is speculative

Are mermaids intending to take the gmc to court for transphobic rules on surgery and hormones?

No thought no.

Do fuck off mermaids.

NEXT!

Many people (Caro included!) had no idea what the tweets said.

To use the lack of publication of them as some kind of gotcha is weird and grasping at straws quite frankly.

The Susie Green/Caroline Farrow thing must be a huge story because The Guardian has felt compelled to cover it.

www.theguardian.com/society/2019/mar/20/catholic-journalist-investigated-by-police-after-misgendering-trans-woman

Nothing new but interesting that they would even put it out.

Oh dear.

Susie Green has made the catastrophic mistake of thinking that people will be more on her side over those tweets, than they would over misgendering.

Misgendering issues irritate people. They think it's a waste of time, and full on snowflakery.

Castrating a 16-year-old horrifies them.

The fact that Susie Green can't see this, speaks volumes. The concept of innate gender identity is something she genuinely, 100% believes.

Even now. After years of people showing her the issues, she still believes it. As soon as Jackie transitioned, they were straight into beauty pageants. I remember Green's comments at the time, all about looking sexy, cute etc.

An effeminate boy simply does not compute, as far as she's concerned.

This is why she will, beyond doubt, make mistake after mistake. Because she is operating under a false premise.

And yes, she has done something that is illegal in this country. And yes, of course you can call illegal operations on children's genitals, abuse.

On the back of allowing illegal, (in this country), operations and medication on her child, she is now in the position of advising other parents.

She is a hundred percent accountable for what she did and any criticism afforded her on the back of it.

Especially as she has been given an insane amount of money, in order to promote her claptrap.

And an interesting comparison that so few media outlets covered Miranda's story.

Whereas they are all falling over themselves to cover this.

The Islan/Yardley case ended up in court, pursued vigorously by the police and the CPS. And the judge was scathing when he dismissed the case.

All of those things would make the story even more newsworthy, surely?

To use the lack of publication of [the tweets] as some kind of gotcha is weird and grasping at straws quite frankly.

And yet that's what the BBC exploited earlier today in the Victoria Derbyshire programme. I wonder if, had Caroline Farrow agreed to be on the programme, she would have been shown them in advance or whether they would have been part of a sudden reveal?

I think that programme was political and engineered to help one side.

I think Miranda's case caught everyone by surprise and the press didn't quite know what to do with it. The Mail framed it as a spat within the transgender community.

The Islan/Yardley case ended up in court, pursued vigorously by the police and the CPS. And the judge was scathing when he dismissed the case.

All of those things would make the story even more newsworthy, surely?

Was thinking the same Popchyk

Also as Caroline Farrow referenced in her tweets Posie Parker was actually interviewed under caution and is still waiting on CPS decision following allegations by Susie Green.

Here in conversation with Magdalen Berns last year:

"The Islan/Yardley case ended up in court, pursued vigorously by the police and the CPS. And the judge was scathing when he dismissed the case"

Perhaps some have not made the very close connection between Helen Islan and Susie Green and their work together at Mermaids?

Caroline is Green's third target:

1 Posie Parker
2 Miranda Yardley [via Helen Islan]
3 Caroline Farrow

Doesn't harassment have to demonstrate a series of related incidents rather than an isolated incident?

I think Miranda's case caught everyone by surprise and the press didn't quite know what to do with it

Caroline Farrow is a journailist and has had a platform for social commentry for some time.

It may also be that her twitter comments were picked up quickly by journalists who have then written copy... there may also be other reasons which contributed of course.

Wow that Guardian article isn't trying to skirt round the issue as it usually does

Surrey police’s former chief constable Lynne Owens said in 2015 that, as a result of £25m in cuts and the loss of 250 officers, minor crimes would be ignored in favour of investigation of offences against vulnerable people.

In February, a teacher who was accused of misgendering a child was told by police that she had committed a hate crime.

The teacher reportedly refused to acknowledge that the pupil self-identified as a boy and failed to use the pupil’s preferred pronouns of “he” or “him”.

Last year, it was reported that a teacher was suing a school after he faced disciplinary action for referring to a transgender pupil as a girl.

Joshua Sutcliffe, from Oxford, said he was investigated after he said “well done, girls” to a group that included a student who identifies as a boy.

The 27-year-old Christian pastor is now suing the school for constructive dismissal and discrimination.

Last October, a transgender lawyer launched the UK’s first “deadnaming” case in the high court against Father Ted’s screenplay writer after he referred to her using her birth name. The transgender activist Stephanie Hayden is suing Graham Linehan, the co-writer of the comedy TV series, for defamation and harassment after he allegedly published a series of tweets “deliberately misgendering” her by using her previous male name, otherwise known as “deadnaming”.

Hayden said Linehan “caused her distress” and that his actions constituted harassment, a misuse of private information, and were a “gross affront to her dignity as a woman”.

OK - truthfully - if I read the gruniard article - will my blood pressure go up? I only ask as I dont want to have a stroke.

I think that programme was political and engineered to help one side.

I think it will achieve the exact opposite of that intention.

I find it very disturbing that Caroline had no idea of what the allegedly offensive tweets she was threatened with prosecution for were, that the Surrey Police were implying they were for 'misgendering' and that SG has been given a platform on the 'independent' state broadcaster to interfere with an ongoing criminal investigation.

I'm really confused by that statement - it seems to be suggesting that SG didn't take her child abroad and have them castrated (in the words of the tweet)?