Lighthouse 'radical' bookshop Edinburgh makes a statement on 'no platform'

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www.lighthousebookshop.com/2019/02/16/to-platform-or-not-to-platform-where-we-stand.html

I cannot get my head around this at all, a bookshop should be the last place to find censorship

Yes Gods! Such flummery.

an intersectional and inclusive radical bookshop

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

It is not “shutting down the debate” if we refuse to discuss, for example, whether trans women are women; to hold such a debate would itself be immoral.

Transwomen are transwomen, and are entitled to be transwomen and have all their human rights, just like the rest of us.

So will they remove ALL of Germane Greer's books from the shelves?

It is not “shutting down the debate” if we refuse to discuss, for example, whether trans women are women; to hold such a debate would itself be immoral

They haven't read many books have they?

They might do well to ponder on Benjamin Franklin's words:
whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech

we recognise myriad vectors of oppression exist in our society, based on race, gender, sexuality, class, physical ability and neurological divergence….and that they are interrelated.

So the ‘explicitly feminist bookshop’ doesnt recognise sex as a basis for oppression? Did a man write that?

So as a woman who is a feminist who knows full well that men can't actually become women I am unwelcome at their shop.

It is so ridiculous, obviously I bear no ill-will towards transgender people, but a transwoman is not the same as a woman.

TWATW

I’m rather looking forward to my next trip up north. I quite like engaging verbally with idiots. It’s fun to see them flustering, blistering and getting all hurty.

Blummin 'eck I need some sort of degree to translate all that.....

So they agree with free speech but only for certain people - am I right?

Yup that the sum of the word soup

Do you stock Mein Kampf or the thoughts of Kim Il Sung?

Or maybe they have a copy of 1984?

Doublethink

The keyword here is blackwhite. Like so many Newspeak words, this word has two mutually contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it means the habit of impudently claiming that black is white, in contradiction of the plain facts. Applied to a Party member, it means a loyal willingness to say that black is white when Party discipline demands this. But it means also the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary. This demands a continuous alteration of the past, made possible by the system of thought which really embraces all the rest, and which is known in Newspeak as doublethink. Doublethink is basically the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.

They issued a proclamation against Women’s Place Uk during the radical book fair they organise. Calling the organisation the usual names. I think (need to check) they were against Trotskyists and communists coming along too. So god only knows what books they stock. Avowedly feminist? I
So many over privileged young people in Edinburgh... Really, I have to work alongside those in community development work and arts workers. In the main over confident and arrogant and have swallowed post modernist trans ideology hook line and sinker. One of them told a friend, at work, that her thinking was old fashioned and believing there were just 2 sexes was like being racist. They are fools.
Mind you, they are not saying anything different to our political representatives. Nicola Sturgeon thinks our concerns around self id are misplaced.
Thank god for all the women now meeting in real life to organise against this pernicious ideology.

Yeps idiots an£ very privileged people
Where is the book shop?
Most shop owners stock what people want to read and what sells

They are shop keepers nowt more

Omg they support that sisters uncut crew
Says it all
And they curate speaking events in case somebody says something hurty
Jeez
Wonder who is funding them
And the word curate. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

They will go bust - and that the first time I think I’ve ever said that about a bookshop with a smirk.

When did anarchist come to mean authoritarian socialist?

While we are on the subject, why does tolerance now mean adherence to a very narrow set of social policies and refusal to discuss alternatives?

Lighthouse bookshop joined with Sisters Uncut to protest the forwomen.scot public meeting in Edinburgh a couple of weeks ago.

I note with some cynicism that Juno Dawson will be visiting the bookshop on the 28th Feb. Perhaps they, and SU, are wondering why no-one is protesting their events in retaliation?

I hope they have a lovely meeting. I'm planning on washing my hair that night.

They’re down on west Nicholson street. Not too far from the Pleasance.

Always been very very tediously woke. ;)

Their thinking does seem a bit muddled (and reading their word salad is like wading through treacle).

We have this:
As an explicitly feminist bookshop, at a time when there are fundamental disagreements in the movement, we feel it is important to re-state clearly that ours is an inclusive, intersectional feminism, and that we thus reject all politics that marginalize or target any woman, including trans women.

In our view, trans-exclusive rights campaigns, whether they call themselves feminist or use the term “gender-critical”, are reactionary rather than radical, and knowingly cause harm to women.

They give no explanation or justification for calling gender critical feminism 'reactionary' (perhaps because there isn't one) or how they think gender-critical feminism 'harms women'. Their so-called 'intersectional feminism' intersects with some men, but not with all women - transwomen are included, but gender-critical feminists are not. Since gender ideologues target some women (who they deride as TERFs), how can they claim to 'reject all politics that marginalize or target any woman'?

I'd also like to know what their definition of 'feminism' is. It doesn't seem to be one that I recognise. Feminism fights against gender stereotyping. Gender ideology worships it. How can they simultaneously be pro-feminism and pro-genderism?

Radical in that they are radically trying to undermine reality?

Or maybe they have a copy of 1984?

I asked them on twitter if they sell it. I suspect the response will be to block me.

Brilliant - I had a look at their twitter but it wouldn't show your tweet until I clicked Show as it might be offensive!