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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jazz Jennings - 'My vagina looked SO bad that my mom, sister, and the surgeons wouldn't even let me look at it'

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QuietContraryMary · 06/02/2019 22:06

twitter.com/JazzJennings__/status/1092971725820780544
"My vagina looked SO bad that my mom, sister, and the surgeons wouldn't even let me look at it. Eventually, I used a compact mirror to get a peak and all I could do was laugh. If only you guys knew.."

twitter.com/JazzJennings__/status/1092971983996895232

"In life, everything is about attitude & perspective. Even though my vagina falling apart was the hardest thing I ever experienced, I knew that one day I would be fully healed & recovered. I had to adopt the mindset of my future self & know in my heart that everything would be ok."

twitter.com/JazzJennings__/status/1092969159753850881

"I'm glad that this rare complication happened to me rather than to another trans individual. With the love & support of my family, it makes it easier for me to conquer a challenge like this. I can't imagine how devasting it would be for someone without that support system."

Jazz is talking about the multiple surgeries caused in large part because of the use of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones.

The 'devastating' effects are what Mermaids are campaigning for for thousands of UK children.

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MrsTerryPratcett · 06/02/2019 23:25

Poor little thing.

VickyEadie · 06/02/2019 23:29

Not a vagina. No sirree.

Mrskeats · 06/02/2019 23:29

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donajimena · 06/02/2019 23:31

Poor Jazz. How could they have allowed this to happen to her? they drove it-

Badstyley · 06/02/2019 23:32

I’m glad this happened to me and not someone else sounds like the kind of thing a person would say when they’re desperately trying not to confront the damage done to them. I’ve said it before about stuff, and of course I wasn’t glad it happened to me instead of someone else, but it’s a good way of trying to feel better about something awful. Actually, the things I’ve said it about, I would rather have happened to anyone else, except for my son. He’s the only person I’d take a bullet for, push come to shove the rest can look after themselves, because most humans are selfish, and I’m an average human. They’re shitty things and I hate that it had to be me, when it could’ve been anybody else. In reality the world is full of people I don’t know, so if it’d happened to them I would’ve thought it was sad, then got on with my life.

Look at it logically, how many times have we seen awful things happen to others and thought, thank god that wasn’t me. Nobody is sorry it wasn’t them, it’s just not the way humans work.

All the money Jazz’s parents made from this awful goolish show, they need to plough every penny and more into good and proper therapy and care for their child, and maybe, just maybe, their child won’t hate them. It’s a shitty feeling knowing your parents haven’t got your back though, so I really don’t fancy their chances.

TwitterLovesMAPs · 06/02/2019 23:35

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BrassBellsAndElephants · 06/02/2019 23:46

Quite, Twitter.

Exactly which properties of a vagina does this surgically created feature have?

Birdsfoottrefoil · 06/02/2019 23:56

Rare complication? Someone hasn’t given fully informed consent...

Badstyley · 07/02/2019 00:12

Jazz has said they’ve had no sexual feeling, so what’s it for? Is Jazz a real woman now, now they can have things inserted into their front hole with no expectation of getting any pleasure? So many wrong things about this.

Ereshkigal · 07/02/2019 00:21

That poor kid.

TheCatsServant · 07/02/2019 00:29

How awful and sad. My hunch is that history will look back and view this type of surgery the way we now view lobotomy.

FlyingOink · 07/02/2019 01:27

A healthy young person undergoing unnecessary surgery which will leave them sterile led by parents who pathologised a child before they even had language and then sold the TV rights is not inspirational. It's horrific.
It's shocking isn't it. The scene in Slumdog Millionaire when the street children are deliberately blinded to earn their keepers more money through begging is more honest that what these parents have done. Every penny they've earned from this is dirty money.
Even if they thought they were doing the right thing, there's no need for the reality show and the scripted tweets, the awkward details, the sordid titbits of information. The family were well off enough, if they really believed it was the right thing to do they could have done all this in private at the very, very least. Obviously it would have been best to let Jazz grow up and once 18 decide on a course of action. But there's no money in that.

NotBadConsidering · 07/02/2019 02:14

Does Jazz know what sexual feeling is? If Jazz was on puberty blockers and their penis and testes weren’t allowed to mature, how is Jazz meant to know what sexual stimulation actually feels like?

MrsJamin · 07/02/2019 05:37

So sad that a healthy young man has been mutilated for the pleasure of an audience needing a woke narrative. Can't people start to see how jazz will never be sexually satisfied or develop adult maturity now? Important brain development happens because of puberty and IQ is lower in those who have been on blockers. Shame on the parents.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 07/02/2019 06:24

I young male was castrated during the making of a TV programme and no one in the media is making a fuss

the world has truly gone mad

and yes, poor, poor Jazz

AnyOldPrion · 07/02/2019 06:40

The worst thing about these tweets are the people who are so keen to point out how inspirational this is and how amazing the family are. A healthy young person undergoing unnecessary surgery which will leave them sterile led by parents who pathologised a child before they even had language and then sold the TV rights is not inspirational. It's horrific.

It’s like an ongoing mass delusion.

Just part of the whole picture, but I can’t understand how people still believe when they see what’s happening now.

And I agree with the poster who said “glad it’s me this has happened to” is child-like altruism. Jazz has been sold the lie that Jazz is lucky. The future holds an unimaginably painful awakening.

Oxytocindeficient · 07/02/2019 06:48

I can't believe that a society that condemns the brutal abuse of children in "backward" parts of the globe (FGM , breast ironing etc) can't see that this is exactly the same. It's sick cultural imperialism to suggest Western versions of child abuse is morally superior.

This is what I cannot understand. At all. This person has been medicalised as a child and then this? And nobody is questioning this?? How is this even allowed.

Also, not a vagina.

GerryblewuptheER · 07/02/2019 07:02

What they have done to jazz is awful.

I don't know what's wrong with them tbh. They were all so unprepared and flippant about life altering major experimental surgery. I don't know how a doctor could operate in good condition conscience.

They have set jazz up to be nothing more than someone with a hole to stick something in. They wont ever have a fulfilling mutually pleasure sex life with a partner. They took her chance before she even knew what sex and love was.

I can't believe they got a TV show out of something so awful.

Akd they way she talks, either she's wilfully ignoring everything or she really did have no idea about what it really entailed. All so odd.

I hope she can be protected from the creepy weirdos who are on the Twitter feed

RockyFlintstone · 07/02/2019 07:11

Rare complication? Someone hasn’t given fully informed consent...

Yes, that's what I thought. Complications around this sort of surgery are very common aren't they, they must have known that. Maybe the 'rare complication' line is part of keeping on message though.

Honestly this makes me feel sick. How did we get to this point of this being something to be celebrated? How can this happen? And anyone coming on here and accusing us of 'being obsessed with a teenagers genitals' can go fuck themselves, quite frankly.

Iused2BanOptimist · 07/02/2019 07:16

I don't know what's wrong with them tbh. They were all so unprepared and flippant about life altering major experimental surgery. I don't know how a doctor could operate in good condition conscience.

TBH people often amaze me with their ignorance about their bodies and medical matters and biology. It's bad when it's doctors doing it though. HmmSad

GerryblewuptheER · 07/02/2019 07:21

TBH people often amaze me with their ignorance about their bodies and medical matters and biology. It's bad when it's doctors doing it though

From what I've seen it was horrific bad press for the drs and hospital anyway.

Filming them.breaking their news the whole thing could break down

Seeing her discharged so early and not even making it to the car before there was a problem

The dr having to come to a hotel when she could barely move when she should have been still in hospital

And the families reactions like they had no idea what so ever.

They looked completely incompetent. And it appeared they hadn't done their job of ensuring their patient was fully informed or well enough to be discharged.

The hospital doesn't exactly xone across as a good one

OvaHere · 07/02/2019 07:22

How can it be a rare complication when it was an experimental, first of its kind surgery? You don't know at that point what is rare or common place because there isn't the data.

RockyFlintstone · 07/02/2019 07:23

How can it be a rare complication when it was an experimental, first of its kind surgery? You don't know at that point what is rare or common place because there isn't the data.

Other people have had this surgery haven't they? Or is there something about this surgery that is pioneering? I haven't really been following really closely.

Oxytocindeficient · 07/02/2019 07:29

I believe due to the fact they took hormone blockers so young, there were issues with small genitalia usually used to help form a fake vagina.

It appears this was some time ago and it’s all healed now?

FlyingOink · 07/02/2019 07:33

Or is there something about this surgery that is pioneering?
Yes use of the peritoneum to create a neovagina, as there wasn't enough penile material. An alternative was to use bowel but Jazz rejected that option.