Hi, I'm Liz the Glitch! Ask me anything.

[glitchliz]

The thread I wrote about attending Posie Parker's panel on gender identity and social media has attracted a lot of attention, and I thought it might be good to establish more of a dialogue. Ask me anything!

Also, to get this one out of the way: my babysitting rates are £15/hr, plus flights, and I'll provide a clean CRB check 😂

So you do believe that humans can change sex, despite not being able to give a meaningful definition of what being male/female means?

It is terribly cruel and wrong to tell children they can change sex. They can alter their body to outwardly resemble the opposite sex, needing life long medical treatment and with significant risk, and resulting in infertility. That is the truth of it.

If someone were to transplant your brain into a differently sexed body, would you stop being what you are and start being the new sex?

Oh dear Godddd.

We are changing laws based on Invasion of the Bodysnatchers.

Liz, you wanted this thread to happen, we wanted this thread to happen.

Knock yerrself out.

Good, I'm glad you think so. I suspect it's run its course.

It so hasn't run it's course, but I can see that this could be mentally exhausting for you. Thank you for coming on though and I hope you come back to Mumsnet soon.

Can you just state explicitly that you a. Believe humans can change sex and b. Are a fan of evidence based medicine?

Favourite biscuit is chocolate hobnob
Keep up captain
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You can understand why trans women are frustrated with @Glinner.

Not really, as he's just showing he does in fact understand what the word "woman" means, has always meant, and continues to mean. Any alternative opinion any group of male people have is on a par with his. But at least his view has the benefit of being shared by the vast vast majority of the world's population, and being based on a logical non circular definition.

Liz, I have one more question. Are you aware you have asked for the psychological device you use to manage gender dysphoria override 70 years of systems that developed aorund male violence, be sufficient to prevent women discussing inequality they live without centering you., and that we dismiss established and mature frameworks for contested medical treatment for children?

Do you think that is a reasonable expectation? Did a therapist ever discuss with you the limits of internal identity and the boundary between that and other people and the law?

My question:
Have you EVER had this much attention?

It so hasn't run it's course, but I can see that this could be mentally exhausting for you. Thank you for coming on though and I hope you come back to Mumsnet soon.

I'm not convinced the thread is serving a useful purpose, is probably the better way to put it. You're very welcome, and thanks to those to have been civil.

Have your pants ever had this much attention?

Noone asked Liz what her favourite biscuit was. Mumsnet am disappointed in you.

did a therapist ever discuss with you the limits of internal identity and the boundary between that and others and the law

Indeed

Have you EVER had this much attention?

Yep, definitely twitter.com/glitchliz/status/957628928394498048?s=21

In all seriousness, I was not expecting any part of this to blow up in quite the way that it did, but I'm grateful for the opportunity to have been able to discuss it with y'all.

I think I've got in a hopeless biscuit muddle

Ha Pikachu

Noone asked Liz what her favourite biscuit was. Mumsnet am disappointed in you.

They did, Lisa, yesterday. And it was answered today I think.

Have your pants ever had this much attention?

They've had extremely intense attention from a small number of people, rather than being a frankly bizarre curiosity to dozens, so make of that what you will.

The question boils down to: do women have a right to say no to penis.

The answer boils down to: no.

Rape culture gone meta.

Favourite biscuit is chocolate hobnob
Keep up captain
🤣😉

I apologise for my shitness. I will try to deal with it in future but am 40 and still shit. I fear this may never change.

Thanks @glitchliz
I think it’s a big job, being an OP and putting yourself forward. Respect for that.

It’s been a good conversation, I hope you think so to.

What did you want to achieve when you started this thread? And what will you take away from it?

Thanks again. I don’t think you have the answers, I don’t think any single person does. I think we are both firmly set in our camps. Best of luck to you.

‘Attention’ in the real world.

As far as sexual function is concerned, I don't believe that post-operative sexual function on trans adults who were placed on puberty blockers as children is affected, beyond the lack of fertility. That lack of fertility as being the price of entry for medical transition is one of the many problems trans people face, and it's a personal choice people have to make.

Lack of fertility has a huge impact on sexual function and I doubt beyond wanting to live, that anyone would make that choice willingly.

Liz I would be really grateful if you state whether humans can change sex or not.

Liz, thanks for coming. Appreciate the thread must be difficult. I stand by all my questions but really do actually come back. You might find you like a lot of these women once you are not asking so much of them.

Ironically.. in your 'cute' post even pikachu is trying to invade female spaces

Was the event set up to recognise women trainers?