Hi, I'm Liz the Glitch! Ask me anything.

[glitchliz]

The thread I wrote about attending Posie Parker's panel on gender identity and social media has attracted a lot of attention, and I thought it might be good to establish more of a dialogue. Ask me anything!

Also, to get this one out of the way: my babysitting rates are £15/hr, plus flights, and I'll provide a clean CRB check 😂

If my brain went into a mans body I suspect I’d act more ‘male’ - just because I could.

Spreading myself out on seats, barking orders, be condescending and loud, take charge at every opportunity, get more pay...

''I would love it if someone could transplant my brain into a man's body. Finally, the chance to be taken seriously in meetings at work, amongst other myriad privileges!

If you would prefer a male body, that's not unachievable. Just sayin'''

Yes it is unachievable. Do you think children should be told that it is achievable for their sex to be changed and their bodies will become the opposite sex? Even though this is categorically not true and what is on offer is barely superficial cosmetic alteration their bodies will fight, and hormones which casue major problems with short term use and catastrophic demage with long term use, leaving them with little sexual function and no ability to procreate? Do you think we should tell children this and ignore frameworks for contested medical treatmennt for children ecause of your identity?

”I have no intention or desire to convince any of you that I'm a woman.”

And yet you expect us to unquestioningly accept you into our spaces and our rights?

You are a woman because you say so. So what is the role of genetics and biology in determining a person’s sex? If blind scientific tests were done on your DNA, or an x-ray of your pelvis, would the scientist say you were male or female?

But you reject the scientific facts, right.

I'd like to point out the term Terf is a misnomer as feminism includes all women , including trans men. As they're women.

I don't think many trans men would agree - that comment is transphobic.

'Nothing illustrates more vividly the subordination of women than men deciding who can be one.'

You can understand why trans women are frustrated with @Glinner.

''I don't think many trans men would agree - that comment is transphobic''

Karen White said his victims being afraid of him was transphobic then raped them.

It's a pretty fair bet that the baseball bat is to protect you from violent men.

I get the strong impression that the hate-speech directed at TERFs and cis-women generally is aimed at us because it's safer than standing up to men.

Which kind of backs up the safe space argument, really.

The 'brain transplant' question is such bollocks.

Yes, if I woke up tomorrow and somehow my brain had been magically planted into a male body, and when I looked in the mirror I had chest hair and a cock and balls, yes I probably would be a bit perturbed and it would feel strange.

Not because of my 'lady brain' but because I have spent 30 odd years in a female body so anything different to that is of course going yo feel odd.

*Not all women have uteruses.
Some men have uteruses.
Some people have uteruses, and are neither male nor female, or are both, or are fluid.

Describing the groups above as 'women' erases a great number of people's identity.*

But there ARE a group of people who do possess or once possessed uteruses for whom that fact is significant. And it’s okay if we create refuges, rape crisis centres, sports teams, toilets and changing room for ourselves if we re-identify as Wombles?

Isn’t that what you said when you stated you had no objection to people with uteruses gathering to further their own interests around, say, reproductive rights? And you would not intrude, just as you wouldn’t intrude on a gathering of gay men? We just had to make clear we weren’t doing it as women, as that’s exclusionary.

If we give you women, can we have Womble? If not, why not?

It's been a good thread overall.

If I start identifying as Kim Kardashian West, do I still need the brain transplant to be her or is my identity enough?

Transphobic has become completely meaningless as a term since it is now used to refer to anything that isn't complete capitulation to current trans ideology. Meanwhile, actual transphobia occurs on male dominated forums but I don't see them being monitored by trans activists.

You do realise that the violence (yup baseball bats), bullying and hounding of women who question how a man can - abracadabra - become a women is turning women (who have been warm or at very least ignored trans women in the past) wary, suspicions and resentful of trans women? The attacks are worse on women - and yet more physical attacks are made by men (and I mean the ones with testicles).

Trying to redefine what the word ‘woman’ means is also a load of nonsense.

that comment is transphobic

It is utterly frightening that stating a fact - not an opinion or a feeling, but a fact - can lead to a person being labelled as anything-phobic and potentially prosecuted for hate crime. Simply because a relatively small group of people have decided to redefine the meaning of basic concepts that have been accepted in language and proven in science for millennia.

In order for Liz Glitch to BE a woman we have to ignore that Liz is a trans woman, ie biologically male, we have to completely ignore sex based inequality, tell children lies about major medical treatment and its likelihood of success, and women have to subordinate their identity and risk assessment?

Am sure there are easier ways to ease gender dysphoria without that. Going to be honest.

*Not all women have uteruses.
Some men have uteruses.
Some people have uteruses, and are neither male nor female, or are both, or are fluid.

No man has a uterus.

No one is both Male and female

No human, ever, has been found to produce both sperm and ova.

Intersex conditions are disorders of development of the Male or female. They are not a third sex, a halfway house or a gotcha for trans arguments.

I’m very happy to talk about intersex disorders, if you want to, but your statement above is largely incorrect. Some women do not have uteruses - but they are still of the class that can bear live young/ produce ova.

The TRA lobby has a habit of twisting science.

'Nothing illustrates more vividly the subordination of women than men deciding who can be one.'

And yet that is exactly what male-dominated governments and other male-dominated governing bodies, such as the IOC, are doing.

Yes it is unachievable.

We can agree to disagree.

Do you think children should be told that it is achievable for their sex to be changed and their bodies will become the opposite sex?

Children should be told that if they'd rather be a boy, they can be a boy. If they'd rather be a girl, a girl, or neither or both or something else entirely.

Even though this is categorically not true and what is on offer is barely superficial cosmetic alteration their bodies will fight, and hormones which casue major problems with short term use and catastrophic demage with long term use, leaving them with little sexual function and no ability to procreate?

The way that hormones have altered my body is anything but superficial. As far as sexual function is concerned, I don't believe that post-operative sexual function on trans adults who were placed on puberty blockers as children is affected, beyond the lack of fertility. That lack of fertility as being the price of entry for medical transition is one of the many problems trans people face, and it's a personal choice people have to make.

Do you think we should tell children this and ignore frameworks for contested medical treatmennt for children ecause of your identity?
I like evidence-based medicine. Evidence suggests that affirmative therapy provides for the best outcomes.

Do you think archaeology is transphobic?

Obviously there are undeniable differences between male and female skeletons.

Should we all just re write science to placate your view that you are a woman?

Nah mate, just male privelige!

Define what a boy is and what a girl is?

And it’s okay if we create refuges, rape crisis centres, sports teams, toilets and changing room for ourselves if we re-identify as Wombles?

Hang on-i thought we'd agreed we were zipzorps now?? I've already made my pronoun badge!

It's been a good thread overall.

Good, I'm glad you think so. I suspect it's run its course.

''Yes it is unachievable.

We can agree to disagree.
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No. We cant. The children act 1989 and hte child cruelty act say no we cant, they provide a framework through which we discuss medical treayment for children which includes prognoss, likelihood of success, impact of treatment and capacity for decision making. So no. We cant. What you are saying is that for your position to b evalid we would have to ignore legal frameworks for discussing treatment for children and to substitute that discussion with a lie.

Are you suggesting the psychological devices you use to manage your own gender dysphoria are substituted for this? Cos thats quite a HUGE demand in the UK.

You like evidence based medicine?

No you really don’t. Because you’re saying humans can change sex. They can’t, can they?

Your statement about blockers is incorrect. No pre pubertal child placed on the blocker/hormone route will have any sexual function at all. They will be sterile.