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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Courting the far right is wrong.... part two

441 replies

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 27/01/2019 15:50

Previously:
Posie is bad, bad and bad.
Sodastream's are under whelming
We need to be nice for the bigger boys to like us.
Camp Coffee is revolting
Evidence is never presented for why our leader and saviour is bad.
Mr frosty is crap, all agree
TimeLady's mum made a camp Coffee cake back in the day.
Also a coffee kisses recipe is found.
The alt-right are mentioned a lot.
Paul McCartney gets a mention
So does Terry Pratchett's discworld.
Mr Fruity is remembered and discussed.
Nazi's were mention by early.
We were told we "need a common enemy"
(Why we need this is presently unknown.)

And now the exciting conclusion....

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MargueritaPink · 27/01/2019 17:30

All this talk of "anti abortion '" for instance.
I've always been firmly pro choice for pragmatism reasons but that doesn't mean I'm pro abortion

I'm pro-choice as abortion is the least worst option. I'm personally very uncomfortable with the hard line radical feminist take on it and I don't support abortion to term.

I'm very concerned at the attacks on free speech and the utter nonsense of what is happening at universities with no platforming and safe spaces. I have common cause with any one who is concerned by that.

lisamuggeridge · 27/01/2019 17:30

CaptainKirksSpookyghost Sun 27-Jan-19 17:29:25
ice cream is better when its cold

Ice cream is normally cold 😉

Smartarse. I'd take it another thread but am supposed to be on social media hiatus and I still didnt clean up today. You are a fascist and should be no platformed and ostracised by all people. Earlywalker agrees witrh me.

Oxytocindeficient · 27/01/2019 17:32

I did find the ‘courting the right’ accusation weird. Courting? Is that what we are doing by left leaning women and right wing women talking to each other? Courting? It’s so silly

Earlywalker · 27/01/2019 17:32

oxy another nice big twist thrown in the works. Where did I say you were anti-woman? That was what you said from a post you read incorrectly that said the opposite.

I’ve said people with unfeminist views shouldn’t have a loud voice in a feminist issue.

I’m having to repeat myself becuase people like you repeatedly twist what has originally been said.

I understand people ‘join forces’ with other organisations but they so obviously have different motives and intentions and it’s imo not right to join them in together.

I believe most of the posters here are not anti-trans, they are concerned about the implications self ID would have on woman in general, I agree with this.

These feminists would want trans people to be accepted and live life as they please free from hate, but not free to compromise woman’s safety. The paramount issue to them is the implications of letting anyone claiming to be a woman, into a woman’s space.

This is a woman’s issue, and woman are standing up against it.

Some other people quite clearly have their own reasons for ‘not liking’ trans people - religious, hateful etc... I do not believe that these people should be able to ride on the feminist wagon to cover their bigotry in ‘concern’ it will do no good for feminists actual reasoning in the long run.

So that is why, imo, people like that should be condemned by feminists.

You disagree, that’s fine. That’s all I have left to say.

LangCleg · 27/01/2019 17:32

Apropos of nothing...

Dear Jean Hatchett

I love you.

Lang

LangCleg · 27/01/2019 17:33

Earlywalker agrees witrh me.

No ice cream for you tomorrow, young woman.

Stardustinmyeyes · 27/01/2019 17:34

Don't you just love condemning women Early Walker

lisamuggeridge · 27/01/2019 17:35

Lang Clegg. I am a grown up and if I want to eat ice cream I will and as long as nobody tells my daughter this will be fine. Because I am a strong independent woman and as long as noone ever tells my daughter I will eat ice cream for breakfast whenever I like...

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 27/01/2019 17:35

Yes, shagging would be far more attention grabbing, the left shagging the right!
A much better thread title.

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LangCleg · 27/01/2019 17:37

I can't spell or type. Sorry for the extra T, Jean!

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 27/01/2019 17:37

Shagging the far right is wrong!

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Oxytocindeficient · 27/01/2019 17:37

someone who is anti-woman

Who decides this? Because you’re calling all sorts of people that, for believing different things to you, who would not agree they are anti-woman. You think pro lifers are all ‘anti-woman’. Yet here they are, protecting our rights to set boundaries and have spaces free of males. That is not anti-woman.

LangCleg · 27/01/2019 17:37

I want to eat ice cream I will and as long as nobody tells my daughter this will be fine.

I'm a snitch.

merrymouse · 27/01/2019 17:38

My issue is with woman like the one being discussed, who is clearly anti - woman’s rights and choices, speaking about an issue that affects woman as if she is doing it in the name of woman.

We understand that. However her views do not make my or your views on self ID less valid, which is what is implied in the OP.

There are regular posts on mumsnet that lament that the poster would support self ID if only a particular forum on the internet aimed at parents were less rude.

It’s illogical and a little tiresome.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 27/01/2019 17:38

Maybe it's about the dreaded anty 🐜 woman, giant 50 foot ant woman from Venus.

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MargueritaPink · 27/01/2019 17:39

My issue is with woman like the one being discussed, who is clearly anti - woman’s rights and choices

I'm anti- porn and anti the promotion of prostitution as just a job. I am very anti these being promoted as women's rights and choices.

This is a pretty standard radical feminist stance, although I'm not a radical feminist. It is a pretty standard stance amongst most , if not all religions, despite the punter lobby trying to make out it's just the extreme evangelicals.

There are some (but by no means all) libertarians who will side with wokey lefties that one shouldn't curtail a women's right to prostitute herself.

Oxytocindeficient · 27/01/2019 17:41

Also this little nugget

You will forever be the bigot in the equasion if you allow the proven bigot to speak for you without condemning her.

Early calling us bigots and implying Posie is ‘speaking for us’. If I don’t condemn this woman, I am a bigot. That’s not how it works.

Earlywalker · 27/01/2019 17:41

swaay.com/theyre-not-pro-life-theyre-anti-woman/

Oxytocindeficient · 27/01/2019 17:42

Back again after saying you had nothing left to say Hmm

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 27/01/2019 17:42

🐜
Woman

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WrathofRancidKlopp · 27/01/2019 17:43

Lang
And on and on

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 27/01/2019 17:44

🐜 woman
From Venus

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MargueritaPink · 27/01/2019 17:44

I’ve said people with unfeminist views shouldn’t have a loud voice in a feminist issue

Self I'D and tyrannical promotion of identity politics isn't just a feminist issue.

Oxytocindeficient · 27/01/2019 17:45

There are some (but by no means all) libertarians who will side with wokey lefties that one shouldn't curtail a women's right to prostitute herself.

Yeah exactly. That would make, following the logic from early, that a lot of people on the left, maybe even people we’ve voted for, anti-women too then?

Mner2019 · 27/01/2019 17:46

It’s far too cold for ice cream! Unless you’re having it as a combo with something warm like a big slab of chocolate brownie then I’m in. Mmmm...