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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Courting the far right is wrong....

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OneTimeThing · 26/01/2019 08:12

...if you follow that with a ‘but’ to justify Posie Parker’s courting of the far right, then you are a fascist.

I said I would only post one thing on this board. I kept that promise.

But this is the pits right here. Posie Parker is seeking funding and making deals with white supremacist, crypto fascists, misogynists, homophobes and racists. How does this not show you what your movement is and has always been?

You need to look at yourselves. If your response is anything other than total rejection of posie Parker and all the groups she is involving herself with, then you are just as bad. If you think that trans people/‘trans activists’ are worse than Tommy Robinson, ultra trump supporters and others who spew far right views then you are a racist, sexist, homophobic nightmare. Those labels equally describe what a person is as well as what a person does.

“But what about TRA’s?” Some of you will want to scream at me.

You don’t see Paris Lees going off to get funding from literal fascists. Hell, Caitlin Jenner votes for trump and the global trans community has never and will never forgive her. And either way, none of what “they” do will magically make it okay to go suck up to people that think gay people should be sterilised or that Muslim’s are evil.

Transphobia is revolting. It’s wrong, and it comes as no surprise to hear that transphobia (which most of you peddle right here) will eventually push people towards other kinds of hate.

Take a long hard look at yourselves. I’m a transgender woman, a mum, and I hope at least some of you are seriously thinking about what kind of person you want to be.

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AngryAttackKittens · 26/01/2019 13:35

What is vegan cheesecake made of, though? How can you have a cheesecake without cheese?

RepealTheGRA · 26/01/2019 13:36

Vegan cheese AAK

You clearly need re-educating so that you can be inclusive of all cheeses - even the fake ones that smell of plastic.

Oxytocindeficient · 26/01/2019 13:39

You can make vegan ‘cheese’. You buy or can make it easily by using a ‘starter’ like rejuvelac and cashew nuts, takes a few days. Obviously you could debate the use of the word ‘cheese’ but you’re just fermenting something other than dairy- nuts instead. Tastes incredibly similar and the final texture is identical to traditional dairy cheesecakes.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/01/2019 13:39

As much as I want to be inclusive I'm haunted by memories of the first efforts at vegan cheese I tasted many years ago. Though to be fair the first low fat cheddar from the 80s remains the apex of "nope, sorry, this is not cheese".

(There was liquid in the packet. Why? Cheddar is not wet.)

Oxytocindeficient · 26/01/2019 13:40

There are good, artisan or homemade vegan cheeses, and there are plastic processed supermarket versions.

HerFemaleness · 26/01/2019 14:03

Today in Tra-la land, organisations led by black women are white supremacist.

You couldn't make this shit up.

feministfairy · 26/01/2019 14:04

Grin - how very apt:
Swhittle.
To intentionally replace a word in a document with a word of a different meaning in the hope that no one notices.

BlueChip19 · 26/01/2019 14:08

OP, your post expresses my concerns.

Posie Parker, this is NOT the move. If you’re going to go down this road (if you’re not, I retract and apologize) you might as well get a new T-shirt/billboard that says, “Woman = Adult Human Female With No Reproductive Or Other Legal Rights”.

Far right groups need women to validate and help further their hateful aims. Women do NOT need them, not in any way, shape or form.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 26/01/2019 14:13

What's the fake individually wrapped segmented cheese slices you get in those microwave burgers made of?

Cwenthryth · 26/01/2019 14:15

Parker, this is NOT the move. If you’re going to go down this road (if you’re not, I retract and apologize)

Evidence on the thread that this ploppy TAAT rant was inspired by would point to not, so I suggest you do retract and apologize.

merrymouse · 26/01/2019 14:22

Going back to the OP, I think this is part of the problem:

Hell, Caitlin Jenner votes for trump and the global trans community has never and will never forgive her

I do not expect any other woman to share my political views. ‘Female’ isn’t a club, it’s a biological description. I don’t include CJ or Paris Lees in that description, but that isn’t an expression of ill will. It’s just that I need the biological description because I can’t avoid the consequences of having female biology.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 26/01/2019 14:25

so yesterday according to Judith Butler we were shills for Big Pope , and this morning we're fascists .

cor. You think you just want to protect the privacy, dignity and safety of women and girls, next thing you know you're PURE EVIL. It's a slippery slope people.

In cheesecake news I made the mini cheesecakes from the pioneer woman blog yesterday. They were amazing and my family hoovered them up. highly recommended.

BlueChip19 · 26/01/2019 14:27

I didn’t read the OP’s post as a ‘rant’. As I wrote, it expresses my concerns. If Posie Parker has not in any way associated herself with far any right groups, I do absolutely retract and apologize.

Dragon3 · 26/01/2019 14:27

Still no evidence, I see. Wonder why. It's a puzzle, isn't it?

I had leftover cake for breakfast. Not cheesecake, though.

RepealTheGRA · 26/01/2019 14:29

Can’t beat cake for breakfast!

BlueChip19 · 26/01/2019 14:30

And feel free to disregard my point that far right groups need women to validate them.
Enjoy your cheesecakes, bye.

picklemepopcorn · 26/01/2019 14:31

The thing is, whoever Posie talks to it doesn't change the truth. She could (if it's true) court all sorts but her argument remains the same.

I could love Posie or hate her, but I will still believe that 'woman' is an adult human female and that people with a penis do not belong in a women's changing room or shortlist.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/01/2019 14:32

If I was going to post an "I totally agree with you that it's terrible that this person did this thing" comment I'd probably check to see if they had done the thing before hitting "post", especially if there was a whole other thread full of comments that weren't just a long self-referential rant.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/01/2019 14:33

We've recently been informed that the Pope thinks a woman is an adult human female too. That I agree doesn't mean that I've become a Catholic, it just means he didn't fail his high school biology classes.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 26/01/2019 14:33

feel free to disregard my point that far right groups need women to validate them.

Certain far right groups do, for example a current one that's actually very extremist in it's view, but pretends not to be does. It actually forces people to disregard science too.

ElonMask · 26/01/2019 14:40

Do one OP.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 26/01/2019 14:43

I just don't understand how Posie potentially talking to some people I may disapprove of (no references provided, so dunno if it's true or not) would make me change my mind about the fact that women deserve privacy from men, and that a person born with a penis is male and that will never change.

OP's argument just doesn't seem logical.

plus I can't tell you how much I love being told about feminism by a prostate bearer. It's just super.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 26/01/2019 14:44

The camp coffe label is much better now, it was an Indian soldier serving a Scottish soldier tea, then they removed the tray.

Now they both sit drinking together.

I've spent some time googling the bottles.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/01/2019 14:45

And we have Jean not wanting to talk to them, thus making the argument that Posie talking to them means the genderists were right all along even odder.

But males are the logical sex, for sure.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 26/01/2019 14:50

everyone knows that all women are THE SAME INSIDE THEIR HEADS

we all look just like the OPs head inside, yanno, kittens, nail varnish, uncomfortable underwear made from man made fibres. It's all we ever think about

This means it's OK to assume women have a single opinion and to come and lecture us about what you assume it is.