Courting the far right is wrong....

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...if you follow that with a ‘but’ to justify Posie Parker’s courting of the far right, then you are a fascist.

I said I would only post one thing on this board. I kept that promise.

But this is the pits right here. Posie Parker is seeking funding and making deals with white supremacist, crypto fascists, misogynists, homophobes and racists. How does this not show you what your movement is and has always been?

You need to look at yourselves. If your response is anything other than total rejection of posie Parker and all the groups she is involving herself with, then you are just as bad. If you think that trans people/‘trans activists’ are worse than Tommy Robinson, ultra trump supporters and others who spew far right views then you are a racist, sexist, homophobic nightmare. Those labels equally describe what a person is as well as what a person does.

“But what about TRA’s?” Some of you will want to scream at me.

You don’t see Paris Lees going off to get funding from literal fascists. Hell, Caitlin Jenner votes for trump and the global trans community has never and will never forgive her. And either way, none of what “they” do will magically make it okay to go suck up to people that think gay people should be sterilised or that Muslim’s are evil.

Transphobia is revolting. It’s wrong, and it comes as no surprise to hear that transphobia (which most of you peddle right here) will eventually push people towards other kinds of hate.

Take a long hard look at yourselves. I’m a transgender woman, a mum, and I hope at least some of you are seriously thinking about what kind of person you want to be.

sackrifice I disagree with sex-based abortions. However, I will defend a woman’s right to do what she wants with her body with no ‘buts’ or strings attached.

What if what she wants to do with her body, is to fly to American and protest for women's rights?

I don’t agree with everyone’s opinion, no.

Yes, a bit hypercritical in my opinion but there you go.

Since trans rights erases the rights of conservative Jewish and Muslim women (among others), I think some posters need to refresh their education.

Celebrating the 'right' of women to cover their hair while removing the single sex spaces they need to adjust their hijab makes a person a massive hypocrite.

I’ve already said I disagree with someone who is anti-woman being at the forefront of a woman’s movement.
If hitler wanted to run diversity training I’d have the same views. You disagree, that’s fine. Doesn’t change my opinion.

Anyone supporting self ID is anti-women then, using your logic, which is pretty much every political party and orgs on the left, not to mention many who refuse to give GC women a platform to speak. Who exactly would you, oh so wise one, suggest we do work with?

I bet none of the alt right apologists on here are Jewish or Black.

Yippee! The Oppression Olympics... I wonder what I'll be competing in today.

What if what she wants to do with her body, is to fly to American and protest for women's rights?

This. Massive hypocrite. Massive.

Yes, imo most people supporting self ID are anti-woman, or in some cases, possibly oblivious or naive.

If hitler wanted to run diversity training I’d have the same views.
Godwin's law invoked! Good thing this post is nearing 1,000.

being at the forefront of a woman’s movement

They’re not. They’re working with many other women on the issue of self ID and free speech.

I'm going to post a part 2, it's needed.

Godwin's law invoked! early already mentioned Nazis a while back.

I bet none of the alt right apologists on here are Jewish or Black.

Feminism is a political practice of fighting male supremacy in behalf of women as a class, including all the women you don't like, including all the women you don't want to be around, including all the women who used to be your best friends whom you don't want anything to do with anymore. It doesn't matter who the individual women are.

Andrea Dworkin - Jewish, left wing, woman.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3491416-Courting-the-far-right-is-wrong-part-two

Part two.

Well I'm a feminist and I feel divided from the people on this board in terms of opinion about the need to focus on a common enemy (patriarchal capitalism), Daily Mail, Trump, trans people, the alt right, Tommy Robinson, Jordan Peterson, and pro-lifers

I'm not a feminist. I have no difficulty making common cause with all or of the The Daily Mail, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, The Spectator, The Times , Rod Liddle or Caroline Farrow about the necessity for preserving free speech.

The totalitarianism "right think" of left-wing, "anti-fa" politics scares me.

Will there ice cream on the new thread?

most people supporting self ID are anti-woman

Oh really now? So you’ve already told us we’re not feminist, now most of us are actually anti-women. And you wonder why people accuse you of being a TRA, you are so disingenuous, passive aggressive and frankly, your contributions indicate to me that you’re a raging misogynist, whatever your ‘gender identity’. My 17 year old and her friends are anti-women too I suppose, for wanting to keep penis out of their changing rooms.

I'm not buying it , but you can bring you own ice cream.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3491416-Courting-the-far-right-is-wrong-part-two

I've gone right off Dr Martens. I prefer Solovair - all made in the Uk.

Actually it wasn’t me who first bought up nazis, it was one of you. Except in your picture, woman were the Jews and trans people were the nazis.

A woman can say/be/do whatever she wants. When someone holds extreme views that are completely opposite to what she is supposedly campaigning for, there is issues and they should be condemned. She’s welcome to hold those views of course, not welcome to pretend she’s doing something ‘in the name of woman’ as a cop out for her obvious bigotry.

A woman can say/be/do whatever she wants.

Oh that's kind of you. Thank you.

The "views" we hold are no self ID and woman = adult human female.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3491416-Courting-the-far-right-is-wrong-part-two