Jean Hatchet, new blog post

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jeanhatchet.blogspot.com/2019/01/why-i-wont-be-standing-up-for-women.html

This blog post from Jean is eye-opening. Working alongside anti-abortion, hard right groups undermines decades of feminism.

Shame on Posie. I agree with Jean, I will also be sitting down for women.

And yet, in spite of our differences, we have being women - in a patriarchal society, in common. It's huge and a lot older than right or left.

Otherwise we'll be like the TRAs, excommunicating heretics and burning the witches. No thanks.

This! If there's one thing this genderism uber alles business has taught me, it's to recognise cult behaviour when I see it. Not having it.

Hahahahahahaahahahaaaaahahahaha! Classic. "The trans people" ( featuring more crappy stereotypes than Pans People) have so many dodgy allies, vast swathes of women have been silenced, no platformed, threatened with violence, their jobs threatened, barred from public spaces, their views misrepresented and lied about, refuges beleagured.

Your tedious smuggery is expected. JH is entitled to her views as is PP. I support all women. Just do what you can.

There are plenty of threads here exposing just what kind of behaviour the TRAs will endorse by their complete lack of condemnation of the people concerned and their narcissistic disregard for women and girls. And it's a bit more serious than sharing a platform with right wingers. Perhaps Aunt might find them educational.

If there was a competition to see who had the dodgiest allies, I guarantee you would win.

Hands down.

Jean, if you're reading: you're a shero and I absolutely support you in drawing whatever lines you see fit.

YY. She says "no one owns me" and she's right. She's somebody I deeply admire and will support wherever she sets her lines.

My husbands family are part of a fundamentalist Christian church, the kind where you don’t talk to people outside that specific church. The TRA’s, the left political parties, and some of the thinking we’ve seen here, really reminds me of what he’s shared about the cult they were part of. If you stop talking to anyone who doesn’t think exactly the same as you, your behaviour is definitely cultish and you certainly won’t achieve anything politically.

Yup.
Jean Hatchet is amazing!
for all you do. So courageous.

I wouldnt stand with someone saying they were a fascist, I wouldnt stand with a whole bunch of people, it was Tory MP who was the first person in several years to have a serious conversation about system failure in child protection and our welfare system. I nveer saw that coming. Left and right are in chaos because the political spectrum is reforming, and partly its doing so in the seeds of what we created we clearly need and want some form of left ad right spectrum and gravitate towards it. I think this process is really important and I think learning from it is really important and the tendency of social media to make it about one person vs another is toxic.

My shoes were never feminist enough and I always watched too much trash on the telly for Grauniad feminism. I think we should replace feminist as an identity with feminist as an adjective or verb. I think when it becomes about identity we start doing nasty shit that isnt feminist at all.

I think this process is really important and I think learning from it is really important and the tendency of social media to make it about one person vs another is toxic

Absolutely, we have to move away from this limited social media reponse of or . Its entirely emotion driven.

So true Lisa

It is also often tories who are the best allies of anti sexual exploitation feminists too.

The way you’re presenting this is as if the right-wing is just another branch of feminism. It is anti-feminist.

Not every woman who has concerns about elements of the trans agenda is a feminist. Nor do they need to be.

Fuck this shit. I support women. I support women with their own views. I don't support anyone who tells someone else who they should support.

I have 'known' and supported Jean for a VERY long time. Long before she started riding - she's the person that made me think, that made me a feminist. I learned from her and listened to her and I'm glad I did. She took on CE and still knows what he is - and so do I.

I don't know Posie. I'm still learning about her. She got GC feminists on the news, she trounced the Haddock, she projected WOMAN on the WYorks Police HQ for fuckssake! I admire what she has done.

Not of us came out of the same mould. We are allowed to disagree, we are allowed to fight and we are allowed to fucking argue. We all do it in our own way... As long as we do it for each other.

Tommy Robinson does a series of Time team specials, digging himself increasingly bigger holes...

His cunning plans aren't very good.

We are allowed to disagree, we are allowed to fight and we are allowed to fucking argue. We all do it in our own way... As long as we do it for each other.

Yes it's like being in a family- people will clash. The worst thing is being repressed - it all comes out passive-aggressively if you don't air it openly.

Also want to add before I retire for the night, that remember the divisive left v right political system, is all designed by men. Campaigning and fighting for our liberation from men by playing their political games, is not what I think women should do at all. I don’t want to behave like men. I don’t want what they’ve created. A system that has caused and enables massive inequality. No. Don’t fall for it. Don’t play their game. Want to switch allegiances depending on the issue? Do it. Do whatever the fuck you need to for your freedom.

None of us came out of the same mould. We are allowed to disagree, we are allowed to fight and we are allowed to fucking argue. We all do it in our own way... As long as we do it for each other

THIS! And it's something that the forces ranged against women will never understand.

''Yes it's like being in a family- people will clash. The worst thing is being repressed - it all comes out passive-aggressively if you don't air it openly.''
I genuinely believe this. I genuinely believe the reason our ruling class are so malevolent to women is this repression, if they let go of the politeness and embraced the tension they'd be nicer to women full stop.

Look at us talking and disagreeing and talking again. You would almost think women were real human beings, that must come as a shock to those watching this thread.

Also want to add before I retire for the night, that remember the divisive left v right political system, is all designed by men. Campaigning and fighting for our liberation from men by playing their political games, is not what I think women should do at all. I don’t want to behave like men. I don’t want what they’ve created. A system that has caused and enables massive inequality. No. Don’t fall for it. Don’t play their game. Want to switch allegiances depending on the issue? Do it. Do whatever the fuck you need to for your freedom.

This articulates so much of the way I’ve been thinking about politics, both with a small and a big P, for the last few years. It’s brilliant to see it in action here.

I think we should replace feminist as an identity with feminist as an adjective or verb.

Agree.

For every person (or newspaper) that's surprised me by expressing views I agree with (Julia Hartley Brewer / Katie Hopkins / Jeremy Clarkson / Rod Liddle etc etc etc) there have been five who have let me down (not going to name names, but most of the BBC, most of Parliament etc etc etc)

This is not a cult - I don’t feel obliged to agree with or like every feminist or gender-critical person. I admire Posie and Jean, but neither are my guru and I came to radical feminism by reading many voices - especially lesbians and women of colour. I refuse to enter into trashing other women. I get deeply frustrated with women TRAs and those that follow them, but they are still women I fight for, because I fight for all women.

Brilliant thread altogether.

I think it's imperative that we Radical Feminists continue to do what we Women do best. Speak openly about our concerns especially when it is about ourselves and people of note that we follow because you can be damned sure that TRAs and MRAs don't have the balls to address their own issues. There is indeed division within the Transcommunity. TRAs and MRAs will do everything in their power to hide, to deny and to conveniently suffer from amnesia when it comes to their own intentions...like pretending to be women and imposing upon women's safe spaces.
In listening to the interview by Meghan Murphy that Jean refers to with Posie, there was nothing at all that concerned me about her views on Tommy Robinson. Quote, unquote 'I think he probably is a racist and a yob'. She has every right to require conclusive evidence about what the Left are accusing Tommy Robinson of - as do we. Especially as our views on Transactivism have left us on the outer with our former Left wing constituents without so much as a thanks for your lifelong contribution. I mean - surely anyone that finds themselves in such a position needs to start questioning what former alliances are saying about others...about everything!
However, I am concerned about aligning with pro-lifers because that would definitely go against everything that Radical Feminism ordains. I admit I need to read more on this (WoLF statement etc) but I think without Posie Parker's response to Jean Hatchet's it would be unfair to make any rash decisions.

I received my 'Woman, Adult Human Female' Tshirt recently thanks Posie. It is washed and ironed and ready for action tomorrow!
Any woman that is willing to put her head above the parapet has my support. Being politically homeless means that we need to get smart about how we take action. This is one way that I feel I can contribute.

Over on twitter, Haddock demands we choose between standing with PP or renouncing our heresy and embracing the one true religion.

I'm sure we'll all want to think very deeply and carefully about this.