Jean Hatchet, new blog post

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jeanhatchet.blogspot.com/2019/01/why-i-wont-be-standing-up-for-women.html

This blog post from Jean is eye-opening. Working alongside anti-abortion, hard right groups undermines decades of feminism.

Shame on Posie. I agree with Jean, I will also be sitting down for women.

Currently most on the left are also anti-feminist.

This is a blindingly obvious point which seems to be sailing a very long way above some people's heads.

By the way...

Jean, if you're reading: you're a shero and I absolutely support you in drawing whatever lines you see fit. Love you, woman.

I mean, it is interesting, isn't it, that two different threads have been posted in about 24 hours: 1) Feminists mustn't ever look at the Mail and 2) Feminists mustn't ever listen to what non-left-aligned women have to say.

Cui bono?

And as a feminist I will damm well warn against people choosing to side with the enemy.

I guess everyone approaches things differently but I don't see right wing women as the enemy. I might disagree with their views and consider those views harmful to women as a class but to treat them as the enemy is, in my opinion, just divisive and doesn't recognise the real power play going on that oppresses women on both sides (who deal and react to it with very differing strategies).

Anyway, right wing, left wing or somewhere in between is all going to be a moot point very soon when women as a biological class are scrubbed out of recognition in the west and the only sanctioned women it will be acceptable to listen to, work with and generally bow down to will be males.

It's not dodgy, Rowan. It's the wrong fucking side of two Republican strategies.

KindOfAGeek You seem to not understand how posting works here.I have bolded a previous comment which used the word 'dodgy' in describing possible allies.

I asked the question about the compatibility of ideologies of transactivists such as Jess Bradley and Tara Hewitt who worked together to form TELI.

I had previously wondered for example how Sue Pascoe (Conservative, previous Master of the Hunt from Yorkshire, previously self described 'alpha male') could ally with Jess Bradley (self described communist, vegan naturist, environmentalist, prison abolisionist)

Jess Bradley explained this though in their contribution to the book, 'To My Trans Sisters'
edited by Charlie Craggs (publ Oct 2017)

"The first time I changed the world was when I told my mates to call me she rather than he. I literally constructed a new world where its possible to understand myself as a genderqueer woman, despite being asigned male at birth simply by changing the language to describe myself. This is why language and pronouns are so important. Its about creating a world in which trans people are allowed to exist"

"And I can honestly say that the work that trans people do for each other means that, for me at least, the trans community is a beautiful place to be. Despite our differences, we have each others' backs"

the book is described:
"Dedicated to trans women everywhere, this inspirational collection of letters written by successful trans women shares the lessons they learnt on their journeys to womanhood, celebrating their achievements and empowering the next generation to become who they truly are.

Written by politicians, scientists, models, athletes, authors, actors, and activists from around the world, these letters capture the diversity of the trans experience and offer advice from make-up and dating through to fighting dysphoria and transphobia.

By turns honest and heartfelt, funny and furious or beautiful and brave, these letters send a clear message of hope to their sisters: each of these women have gone through the struggles of transition and emerged the other side as accomplished, confident women; and if we made it sister, so can you!"

source:
books.google.co.uk/books?id=gNspDwAAQBAJ

And the idea that we should interact with those who hate us and want to oppress us shows even more lack of insight or concern.

Because #nodebate is such a fabulous idea isn't it?

Nobody is asking anybody to 'join' the right or even work with them if they don't want to but the idea that nobody must even talk to them is juvenile in the extreme.

This isn't student politics this is real life.

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Part of having a feminist resistance to male power includes expanding the base of that resistance to other women, to women you have less in common with, to women you have nothing in common with. It means active, proselytizing dialogue with women of many different political viewpoints because their lives are worth what your life is worth.

That's why.

We have to go past the conventional political barriers, the lines that the men have drawn for us. "Our girls are over there; we'll call them Democrats, we'll call them socialists, we'll call them whatever we want to call them. Those girls are over there; that's their girls. The girls on our side aren't allowed to talk to the girls on their side." Well, if the girls on either side talked to the girls on the other side, they just might find out that they're being screwed the same way by the same kinds of men.

This is very frustrating. You can conjugate it:
I'm principled
You're opportunist
She's a bigot.
I have no intention of leaving any marginalised group behind but I will draw my own lines and make my own decisions. Jean and Posie are doing the same. Persuading people is a necessary skill, haranguing them is counter productive. Nobody is 'siding' with the far right, they're sharing platforms on a specific issue.

Jean, if you're reading: you're a shero and I absolutely support you in drawing whatever lines you see fit. Love you, woman.

Absolutely this ^^

Jean Hatchet – Emma Humphries Special Award Winner – 2018

"Jean rides her bike for each of the women murdered by men as a result of intimate partner or family violence. She began the project in 2017 by riding for all the women murdered in 2016 and have now completed 183 rides and ridden almost 5000 miles. She keeps the names of the women in the memory of the public by highlighting the details of how they died and indicating the male perpetrator tactics that were used. So it is partly to honour the women and celebrate their life and partly to raise awareness of the dynamics of intimate partner abuse. She has raised nearly £10,000 which has been used to match fund an IDVA for Wearside Women In Need who faced the loss of their funding at the time she began.

In March 2017 she raised £1500 in a few days to show solidarity with the complainant in the rape trial of Paddy Jackson after he and his co-accused were acquitted after a torturous trial. This was accepted on her behalf by Rape Crisis Network Ireland.

In October 2016 she raised £27,000 for the complainant in the Ched Evans trial after his acquittal and this was divided between Rape Crisis England and Wales and the complainant. This was again as a show of solidarity at the appalling way she was treated in court and the lack of justice in the way Section 41 was utilised against the woman."

I don't think I've ever seen TacoLover supporting gender critical feminists on here. He/she just seems to come here to stir up trouble and play privilege poker.

I feel reasonably certain that if Posie was a racist, with a dodgy thread posting history, Anyfucker would’ve mentioned it.

Nothing to see here. Feminist women disagree about tactics for achieving their shared objective of halting self ID. No shit. 🤔

I hope someone is going round to Jean’s with some pink gin. It’s rubbish when a girl trip goes wrong. I hope Posie has arrived safely. I am sure she will be awesome. We don’t have to agree. We don’t even have to work together. We just have to be pulling in the same direction 🤷🏻‍♀️

2rebecca Its funny how that so often happens when Posie Parker is the subject of a thread.

I hadn't seen the OP either and their intentions may also have been to stir.

MM: Who's Tony Robinson?

Meghan thinking he was Tony Robinson has given me some much needed light relief

We have to go past the conventional political barriers, the lines that the men have drawn for us. "Our girls are over there; we'll call them Democrats, we'll call them socialists, we'll call them whatever we want to call them. Those girls are over there; that's their girls. The girls on our side aren't allowed to talk to the girls on their side." Well, if the girls on either side talked to the girls on the other side, they just might find out that they're being screwed the same way by the same kinds of men.

This!!

I've seen lots of brigading around PP.

Meghan thinking he was Tony Robinson has given me some much needed light relief

Also want to say to Jean, if it’s not already clear, I love and appreciate what you do. My stepmom killed herself because of abuse my father dished out ( as he did to me so I had to flee as a girl and fend for myself ). I only knew about all the self ID & GC stuff because I followed Jean back when I was on twitter. I can’t thank you enough Jean. Please look after yourself however you need to and know that you have plenty of support.

Look how many TRA’s focus on Posie, on silencing her. If she wasn’t effective, as someone suggested, they wouldn’t be trying so very hard to silence her and to influence us into rejecting her.

Love you too Posie Parker.

Tommy Robinson does a series of Time team specials, digging himself increasingly bigger holes...

The political spectrum would always have reformed WITHIN any movement, that it did so rapidly is a testament to how stable we are. We all stood together for the GRA and we were united by one thing, something that doesnt change according to our biology. The political spectrum reformed and tribes formed, thats human organisation. 3.5billion women on the plate, all have different concerns and views. Yes the religious right and far right have viewed this as a vehicle, thats going to be up to women to say no to. In the UK our most pressing threat of actual fascism comes from the left, who have a political party and our trade unions, and got their power entirely from austerity that harmed women.I dont want to be anywhere near social media movements, but then I was never going to. There is a danger in confusing your tribe with all women, and then assuming you and your social network is at the heart of this. That is not the case. Right wing wpomen were not going to suddenly become let wing women and vice versa. Its easy to forget how recently the GRA review was. Every wave of social movement since 2010 has folowed this pattern. A charge is built and then in the dispersal you see the political spectrum reform. My interest is laws and systems around marginalisation, ergo I cant stand with the left or the right or elite feminists and wont. But that doesnt make everyone I am not stood with a villain. It means they have different priorities. I wouldnt stand with someone who bit the hand after solidarity was shown, but then I never saw it as formation of a new friendship group. We live in a country of 64 million women, many of us just stood up at considerable personal risk and we won. Now the political spectrum reforms. Disagreement and tension is not the end of a movement. Its a sign of healthy adults and the feminism that brought us here was perceived itself as a central point controlling women and that was what trans activists used. Thats what they thought feminism was. We beat them because thats not what women do or are. It is important for tension to be aired, it is important to note when that is being squashed, it is very important to note when existing lobbying groups are involved and to know they are not concerned individuals but there has be acceptance that the things that bind us do not get rid of the things that divide us and now is addressing htat undermining anyone except someone who doesnt want freedom of speech. Do I give two flying fucks if the likes of Harrop see disagremeent? No. Not all disagreement is bad and existing social and political dynamics will always reform in a movement, the question is how that is dealt with and whether that is a learning process and an evolution or stopping any progress in its tracks.

Well said, Lisa.

Absolutely, Lisa. The base line sexism of thinking that many women came together and are not all automatons and have minds of their own is a bad thing is par for the course for the likes of Harrop, who doesn't really seem to see women as actual autonomous full human beings.

Thank you Lisa.

I don’t care what Harrop thinks about this whole thing. For me, I’ve actually loved seeing so many women comment sensibly and wisely about working together and coming together even when you may strongly disagree on some things. Most of us have shown support, appreciation and respect to both women too.

Yes, thank you Lisa.

I don't want group think, I want robust disagreement and debate while recognising that we do have common aims.

Otherwise we'll be like the TRAs, excommunicating heretics and burning the witches. No thanks.

I LOATHE Katie Hopkins with a passion. I'm still glad when she puts a GC view across.

I've voted Labour all my life, but I'm so done with 'if you're not ideologically pure you're not welcome'.

Take the point about being white and straight and not the target of the worst of the right wing. But I've had an abortion and don't regret it one bit, there's conflict there if I choose. I dunno.

Exacty. I hope trans activists are watching, I do. Their notion of womanhood as nothing more than a fuckhole and appearance. Nope. We complex, we different, we bound by physical sex and outside that that there is no hive mind and nor does there need to be. For there to be a centrally controlled hive mind there would need to be a central control and you'd need more than Mumsnet and twitter to get that memo to everyone.