Harry the owl visited by police

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This whole hate speech/incident law is completely out of control. This is sinister.
Check out @HarryTheOwl’s Tweet: twitter.com/HarryTheOwl/status/1088144870991114241?s=09

And how long does this go on for befire we stop trying to convince people they don't see what they actually see

Conversely, I’ve stopped taking news headlines at face value. If a “woman” is reported as having committed violent or sexual offences, I don’t believe it until I’ve checked multiple sources. This approach to media reporting of crimes by gender has significantly undermined my trust in previously reliable outlets and created a lot of extra work for me. I am sure I’m not alone. Colour me cynical, but I am sure this undermining of the press benefits someone’s agenda.

It's abuse plain and simple tbh.

People state gaslighting In a divorce.

It's legalised gaslighting

I'm the same, boatyard. I accept that there ARE violent crimes committed by women, but when I see headlines stating that a woman has done something violent and more male pattern, my gut feeling is usually right in that the woman concerned was not born female

Ditto.

I see (as usual) that some of the comments under Kirkup's article are ploughing the 'Hahaha, this is what the leftwingers have brought on us all!' furrow and some are apparently insisting that it's ironic that Kirkup disagrees with this but is anti-Brexit (I'm struggling with that one).

This report exposes the profound impact that discrimination, violence and exclusion is having on trans people’s quality of life in Britain today

I fully believe all that Stonewall says about the hate crimes & discrimination against trans people, gay men & lesbians (oh well, they don't mention lesbians much). Maybe not the stats as they are overblown by the sort of tripe described by Harry the Owl and the OP but it's clear that we still have a long way to go in acceptance of all sorts of different lifestyles and sexual preferences.

BUT - we do not challenge and get rid of such prejudices and violence by trying to erase the definitions and lifestyles etc of 51% of the population.

Who also are still discriminated against en masse and individually, in a femicide that if women were, say, young black men, we'd be talking about genocide. But the 2 women a week, the 15% pay gap, the sacking of pregnant women, the daily regular public abuse that many (most? all?) women experience is just seen as "normal."

What Stonewall should be challenging are the repressive & violent models of masculinity which motivate men (because yes, most gay-bashing and transwoman-bashing is done by MEN) to damage that which they feel challenges their fragile supremacy.

NAMALT, but ALL MEN benefit from the terrorism of masculinity.

Sometimes I think it's time to revive SCUM.

I fully believe all that Stonewall says about the hate crimes

Its important to understand what Stonewall, Mermaids etc describe as hate crimes as this had considerable influence on others as well as ascertaining what people themselves who have responded believe this to be.

Its a self-reporting survey.

(there is of course prejudice, violence and intolerance within society which should be identified and challenged. Today's crime figures show significant increase in high impact crime)

My offering, the rhythm is off. I will blame the toddler.

When policemen investigate wrongthink
Be careful of clicking on trans links
Approved training suggests
Trans have bulletproof vests
Ungood thoughts land you in the clink

CroneInAMillion twitter thread:
twitter.com/CroneInAMillion/status/1082770527310278656
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"Well there's a thing. Because I filed a FOI Request to see who was involved in writing the police's National Trans Tool Kit. I found out it actually wasn't written by the police at all!

It was supplied by lobbying group Stonewall, then released without proper checks.

For those who missed it, in Nov 2018, the police released a hugely biased document that incorrectly advised all police forces that misgendering is a hate crime. Scarily, it implied that rejecting gender ideology/wrong body theory is also considered a hate crime.

However, they have left in other points of clear bias. For example, rejecting gender ideology/wrong body theory would still fall under the definition of transphobia.
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Freedom of Thought (and by extension disbelief) is protected under the Human Rights Act 1998, article 9. Trans people do have a right to believe they are literally the opposite sex but they have no right to compel this belief in other people.
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Seeing the police take a surprisingly controversial stance made me keen to investigate who exactly this definition had come from. So I submitted a Freedom of Information request to Surrey Police to find out. I received the following answer:

"The information that we hold is that the trans toolkit came from Stonewall. We do not hold any other information regarding this request other than it was ‘signed off’ by NPCC."

NPCC = National Police Chiefs' Council; a national co-ordinating body for law enforcement in the UK

We have to ask why lobbying groups are being allowed to write guidance and policy documents for the police and prison services. What is going on here? This can not be right."

Absolute madness

Yes, thanks ROwantrees for that nuance. I agree that there's a lot of self-reporting. But I'm fair-minded - I know that there's a level of daily abuse & harassment for people perceived as "different."

After all, we women are on the receiving end of that all our lives.

Maybe we women should report to the police every single time we are subject to harassment and hate speech? Although there are 2 women each week who are silenced forever.

Someone tagged Humberside police in a tweet under James kirkup’s article and this was their response

Humberside Police
@Humberbeat
Replying to
@FranDav
We received reports of a number of transphobic comments being posted on social media.
We take all reports of hate related incidents seriously. We will always investigate to determine if a hate crime or incident has been committed & we will then take proportionate action.

mobile.twitter.com/Humberbeat/status/1088455736168861696

I’m also suspicious now every time I hear a woman has been reported committing an offence. Sadly I’m also now double checking every time I hear a woman has been nominated for or won something. It’s ridiculous. I’m furious that I now can’t take it for granted, and feel happy thoughts, when I hear a woman has been recognised for an achievement.

Maybe we women should report to the police every single time we are subject to harassment and hate speech?

Misogyny doesn't count as a hate crime.

Funny that, isn't it @Datun ?

A while back, I was hearing radio & TV adverts advising people to report hate crimes and hate speech, and listing the grounds. It was noticeable that "sex"/misogyny was not on the list.

Well, who cares? It's only whiny women. Who aren't even as good at being women as TW.

Why are the police, with their limited funds and staffing, prioritising "hate incidents" over investigating other crimes? They are promising to always investigate any reports?! They don't promise to investigate all reports of other crimes. In fact in many areas crimes such as car theft, burglary and so on don't get investigated at all. Police frequently don't respond to events because they don't have the people available.

Are Police Commissioners (the ones you can vote for) responsible for this kind of policing policy decision?

So how is the police defying what is transphobic

Yet the police is not sorting out what’s happening to Caroline

Sadly I’m also now double checking every time I hear a woman has been nominated for or won something.

Oh yeah, that too. 😕

The only positive thing about this is the fabulous response. Some of the limericks are amazing, GC people on twitter are so bloody clever, and funny too. The opposite of the humourless TRAs policing people's thoughts.

ah, very pleased with the fowl/foul thing.

I can sleep well tonight now.

"Humberside was having trouble
What a sad, sad story
Needed a new policeman
To restore its former glory
Where, oh where was he?
Where could that man be?
We looked around
And then we found
The cult for you and me

AND

NOW

IT'S