@PositivelyPERF I say folk when I talk about anyone, but you're right, I should have said trans people. I'm sorry you've been met with such verbal abuse, and I obviously wouldn't condone that from anyone as @Floisme downthread implied - I'm not horrified because you're women mocking trans people, I'm horrified because you're people mocking trans people, and it literally did read to me like a bunch of bullies piling on.
I'm a woman, too. But I genuinely believe that you're taking the absolute minority of people using this as an opportunity to exploit and acting as if it's going to be a daily occurrence. it's just become a hysteria-driven echo chamber. I live somewhere where trans people have been using bathrooms that match their gender identity for decades - if it was going to cause a mass exodus of men posing as women to assault women, we'd know by now. Allowing transgender people to use the bathroom that works for them doesn't legitimize violence in any way - those behaviors are and will continue to be against the law for anyone. No-one wants that to be any different.
But advocates and law enforcement alike in cities and areas that have trans-inclusive policies agree that there hasn't been an increase in people attacking anyone, or using access to bathrooms to attack. It just isn't happening with the frequency you're implying it will - or really at all. And so whilst you're all worrying about protecting yourselves from the odd man that thinks this might be a good "in" for attacking women, you're denying normal, kind, genuine people who are struggling the right to live like anyone else, without abuse or bullying or feeling unsafe because of who they are. There's a reason trans suicide rates are so high. If the rare man who does plan on using that as an in is going to attack women this way, he'd be doing it anyway. A rule saying he can use a woman's bathroom isn't going to make the difference in him going and attacking a woman - there's no one policing the door right now to stop him. If he wanted to attack a woman, he'd attack a woman, it's not inclusive laws that are going to encourage him.
@CosmicCanary I'm not meeting this with resistance because it's changing something to do with men, and frankly I couldn't give two hoots as to whether men have to have toilets and queue a little longer. It was the tone of the thread I took issue with - I'd be resisting whether it was men's spaces you were talking about or women's.
@CuriousaboutSamphire The idea that you all know how unpleasant you sound because you're just "doing what they're doing" doing doesn't make it any better. If you know how unpleasant it feels, why on earth would you want to be like that? It's like being bullied and deciding you want to be the bully.
I understand that you guys are fighting back because you feel like people are taking away your rightful spaces, but I think that's what the people on the other side are doing too. People on either side of the debate threatening violence should absolutely be held accountable, but so should anyone going out of their way to knowingly make someone feel inferior or mocked for being who they are. People don't choose to be trans, they just are. It's not some giant conspiracy by men to take over all women's spaces. It's people trying to survive in a world that already attacks them, in a way that makes their lives live-able and bearable.