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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Radio 4 - 'cis' people who are 'safe in the world'

82 replies

MsMcWoodle · 29/12/2018 07:53

So angry. Just woke up to a discussion with Travis Top shop let me change with 12 year old girls or I'll scream and scream till I'm sick and some handmaiden writer. The whole thing was awful, one sided, and not challenged in any way by the presenter.
The real gem was when the handmaiden was talking about the duties of 'cis' people who are apparently 'safe in the world'.
Why was this left unchallenged?
Can anyone be so clueless that they do not realise women are NOT safe in this world. It's not even 8am and I want to tear my hair out.
Good morning.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 29/12/2018 17:39

Trivia - haha autocorrect!

nicenewdusters · 29/12/2018 18:41

Autocorrect - it really knew what it was correcting there !!

I managed about 2 minutes of Travis' trivia. I loved the part where they said they were trans, just getting it out there, it wasn't the be all and end all for them. I'm guessing the rest of his performance was about being trans, in a stunning and brave way of course ?

Beerflavourednipples · 29/12/2018 18:45

God Travis Alabanza is just so tedious.

Beerflavourednipples · 29/12/2018 18:51

Every day, when someone is born, without their consent, they are told that they are 'boy' or 'girl'...

Nope, their sex is noted. You don't 'consent' to being a boy or a girl, you just are one. I didn't 'consent' to be 5ft2, I wannabe at least 5ft8.

What babies do have foisted upon them is the bullshit gender stereotypes which come about sometimes before they are even born. And Travis and Travis's ilk just reinforce these stereotypes by claiming that if you don't like shit that is normally associated with your sex, then there is something amiss, that you are transgender rather than that you are just someone who is not into boyish/girlish stuff. Or maybe it's just because they want to get into the girls changing rooms, who knows?

I have so much more respect for the likes of John Maclean. He is everything Travis could be.

nicenewdusters · 29/12/2018 19:18

I don't think I consented to not being assigned as a member of the Royal family.

Off with their heads !!

RedToothBrush · 29/12/2018 20:00

Consent at birth matters to Travis.

Consent of 12 year old girls wishing to change in Top Shop amongst other females only and not adult male bodied strangers like Travis matters not one jot to Travis.

Gosh isn't it like pro lifers.

Travis wasn't assigned a self centred tosser at birth but sure makes a point of being one as an adult.

SlipperyLizard · 29/12/2018 23:30

Hipsterfun that was my favourite bit too - Travis so needed someone to step in and speak for Travis (in the very unsafe Today studio) that Travis couldn’t even let her finish her explanation of why she was there!

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