Misgendered and violent

[yiskasha]

I know it's from the Daily Mail, but I can't find anyone else reporting on it. I've never seen a woman tell a man to "take it outside" or aggressively kick a display down because they've accidentally been called "sir"... (hope the link works).

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6536045/Furious-transgender-woman-rages-store-clerk-calls-sir-instead-maam.html

Well, that's definitely how most women I know act when someone in a shop annoys them!

I had a similar thing happen in a group of people I was interacting with. When I debriefed with the appropriate people it turned into a session on how I needed to respect that man's gender choices and not how his behaviour was inappropriate in the context it was.

Since they’re all so very angry, I agree that reverting back to cross dressers is the correct terminology.

Cross cross dressers vs not cross cross dressers will help them to align with whichever group they fit and no one can be accused of transphobia. Looking fwd to the video of a six footer built like a brick shithouse screeching I’m a cross, cross dresser and wrecking a shop whilst trying to flounce.

Sex remains as it is and gender can be dropped like the deadweight it has become.

Maybe they’ll start a campaign for kids using that brilliant group kriss kross 😂 there’s a whole new world out there!

So is any guy now a potential lady
Should we be calling all guys mam
Just in case they kick off bigly

But then there are the blokes who if you called them "miss" might thump you, so you're fucked either way really.

Titania is brilliant. I hadn't come across her before.

I think this video is awful and of course if I'd have been there I'd have been scared shitless. Male violence is inherently frightening. But equally I'm pleased to see the video because it is really really hard to watch it and think 'poor delicate woman.' And to see how many views it's had and the number of comments on Twitter, well it just confirms how few people buy the things TRA's are trying to force on people. Trans ideology might very well be doing real damage now and I'm sure we have a way to go but we will get there eventually. People will look back in 20 years and think 'what the hell happened that people swallowed those ideas?'

wrecking a shop whilst trying to flounce

I'm giggling over that image. It must be hard to flounce in size 11 pink trainers when you've just kicked the shit out of the Pokemon display stand. Somebody referred earlier to the "sir" in the video doing the hulk smash noise. That's still making me laugh every time I think of it.

Of course my laughing is a reminder of the famous Margaret Atwood phrase that men fear women will laugh at them, women fear that men will kill them (paraphrased). I'm going to keep laughing, even if it's literal violence.

How disturbing. Why have we got to the point whereby being 'misgendered' is inherently the greater misdeed than any subsequent reaction to it

I'm trying to be Deliberately Vague but circumstances in which I accidentally misgendered this person included my calling out gendered dynamics - men present (or at least those who presented as male) were not letting women speak and women had previously approached me to say that they found a certain male's (although it turned out this was not how he considered himself) behaviour appropriate.

I've seen it suggested that it is Kristin Beck, ex navy seal. But, i dont think it is??

PrivacySetting I don’t think suggesting specific names is helpful and would only get the thread deleted - perhaps report your own post and get it deleted or you’ll have a strike for that for sure.

It doesn’t really matter who this individual is, apart from to law enforcement. What matters is how their behaviour is perceived by the wider population. That this incident highlights the kind of people that the self-id/‘acceptance without exception’ lobby expect women to share protected spaces with.

It really kind of does matter to me, who individuals are. Time and time AND TIME again, we are seeing that these aggressive, abusive criminal transwomen are the very SAME transwomen that are driving the 'trans right's movement. And that is important, for people to know

They aren't different people. They are the very SAME.

Do we know how Caitlyn Jenner came out to his family as 'a woman's? He was caught trying on his teen daughters underwear

Ok, sorry for saying it doesn’t matter - I don’t feel it is the most important point here, that’s my opinion - but I don’t think your post suggesting a name will stand here, is all.

Yes, i expect you are correct. And it probably shouldn't, as it isn't known to be true even

Ex miliatary having a tantrum? I’d be surprised - maybe showing some alpha male assertiveness, but surely training would make them less likely to have a massive strop and threaten violence (and kick a defenceless Pikachu).

Lundy Bancroft talks about how often DV offenders tell him they have an anger management problem, and he points out that they don't, they are perfectly capable of managing their feelings when its in their interests. for example they don't scream at or beat up their boss at work, or their mates.

They have an 'I feel entitled to behave aggressively, intimidatingly and violently to people I feel in control of' problem.

One would think that military training would teach them to control their anger and use it for best effect

I would think it does, Wordthe. It doesn’t mean that ex-miliatary people won’t still choose to threaten and intimidate people when they fancy it.

I would think it does, Wordthe. It doesn’t mean that ex-miliatary people won’t still choose to threaten and intimidate people when they fancy it.

Or that they are not using it to what they think is the best effect.

How does it work in the military, do they screen out things like narcissism?

I guess once a git then you’re always just a git. Male, female of clownfish.

NottonightJosepheen

I'm supremely unsurprised.

Can you share the link? Sounds interesting. And, yes, unsurprising given the patterns being seen.