Misgendered and violent

[yiskasha]

I know it's from the Daily Mail, but I can't find anyone else reporting on it. I've never seen a woman tell a man to "take it outside" or aggressively kick a display down because they've accidentally been called "sir"... (hope the link works).

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6536045/Furious-transgender-woman-rages-store-clerk-calls-sir-instead-maam.html

You can’t address every man with long hair as “Ma’am.”

Shop staff can’t win.

Precisely. The only people at risk from dying through misgendering are those who have made a mistake, but are offered "out" by a terribly offended and wounded individual. But an offended individual with testosterone pumping through their muscly arms who demands validation.

Exactly Waxy1 . And if you're serving a customer with short hair, no visible make up and male style clothing at what point do you decide to say sir, to try and ensure they don't karate kick their way around the window display ?

Needs to loosen those pink trainers, blood circulation is being affected I reckon.

@bub

Do you really have no actual debate for your thoughts?

Let's tarnish all transgender people with the same brush and use the example of one particularly aggressive individual as an argument...

TheBubGrower I can't see where someone has done this. Please could you quote or at least report it?

I think it is an automatic reaction isn’t it? It’s a lifetime of just ‘knowing’ what sex people are. I recently met a transman - friend of a friend. Lovely person - I really liked him and we got on well.

I’d seen pics of him on social media before we met and he looks like a man. I had never had any trouble referring to him as a man, using Male pronouns etc. But when I actually met him I had SUCH trouble not saying she and even now I’m finding it tricky - though I would never want to upset him and I would try hard not to.

Because he is very slight - probably 5ft 2ish with delicate features my brain sees him and thinks woman. He was just wearing jeans and a t-shirt (same as I was) and consequently I found that in real life, he looks like a pretty woman with short hair. It’s like a constant clash in your brain. At least that’s what I thought.

I find that video absolutely terrifying. What a truely fucked up world this has become.

Wouldn't want to share a toilet with that bloke.

I am was young ( once)

Now that I do believe. I was young once too

This person has not been verbally abused, racially insulted or homophobically bullied. Someone made a genuine error and they are graceless enough to throw a temper tantrum in response.

This is not a rights movement. It’s a dominance movement.

This

I'd bloody hate being a young lesbian nowadays.

Someone made a genuine error

But the clerk did not make an error.

The clerk referred to the person in the way that the clerk always refers to male people. No error.

And then the customer referred to the person in the way that she always refers to male people. No error.

empress

That attitude is filtering down slowly to young gay men, according to ds1 at any rate

What a terrifying display of male style dominance behaviour

Y'all are missing the point.

The dude is able to play games online as a woman, so why is it so different in real life?

That attitude is filtering down slowly to young gay men, according to ds1 at any rate

That's good, Rufus. Maybe they can help build a resistance.

As a 5ft 2 female I would be absolutely terrified of this in my female spaces. I'd be scared for my children too.

There is no defence. Those who see this entitled, violent, narcissistic, colonising fantasist as the victim need their heads examining too.

Possibly empress

Ds1 has his eyeroll down pat at the very least

I keep meaning to quiz him more on the issue...

I think it is one of the problems when you spend your life in a closed environment on the internet where everyone praises you as brave and stunning. Real life is different.

This is exactly it.

Can I just tale a moment to point out the catalyst for this?

The individual had sold back some used games at the shop and was offered store credit (normal policy).

They wanted cash.

So this is the outcome of that.

Empress
I was just thinking exactly the same thing and wondering how I could protect my child from this mindfuck if they are gay.
Gaslighting by society to accept men are women is inexcusable. I wonder if anyone is looking at the incidence of mental health issues for lesbians, the current climate must be having a horrendous effect.