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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Misgendered and violent

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yiskasha · 28/12/2018 19:04

I know it's from the Daily Mail, but I can't find anyone else reporting on it. I've never seen a woman tell a man to "take it outside" or aggressively kick a display down because they've accidentally been called "sir"... (hope the link works).

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6536045/Furious-transgender-woman-rages-store-clerk-calls-sir-instead-maam.html

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ChristmasWrappingTheWaitresses · 28/12/2018 20:00

Well it wasn't nice to watch was it? I'm not convinced the testosterone blockers or suppressers are doing their job in this instance.

Imagine if this person was allowed to compete in sports against women.

starcrossedseahorse · 28/12/2018 20:01

MissSusan but is this not an 'error' that anyone in their position would have made? I know I would have.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 28/12/2018 20:02

I'm not convinced the testosterone blockers or suppressers are doing their job in this instance

you don't need to be on them.

Popchyk · 28/12/2018 20:02

"I'm not convinced the testosterone blockers or suppressers are doing their job in this instance".

Most people don't take anything.

NottonightJosepheen · 28/12/2018 20:02

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starcrossedseahorse · 28/12/2018 20:03

Fully bearded and be-cocked. Still a woman.

ShotsFired · 28/12/2018 20:04

That's where "acceptance without exception" gets us.

That person is a woman because they say they are a woman.

Now imagine them in a (e.g.) changing room and see what happens if a lone woman tries to get him to leave?

Frankenterfer · 28/12/2018 20:05

Take it outside and I'll show you a Sir.

Angry man.

HavelockVetinari · 28/12/2018 20:05

Women don'tknow who is likely to be a threat. That's why we have single sex spaces, to remove the need for case-by-case judgment calls.

^ this. Precisely.

CarolDanvers · 28/12/2018 20:05

Hmm, I wonder if he would have kicked off about being misgendered in a bar full of half pissed blokes out on a Friday night? 🤔. Do you think he weighed up his targets; that young and slightly built man behind the counter, and a woman, and knew he’d get away with terrorising them? Hard to know isn’t it?

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ShotsFired · 28/12/2018 20:06

Or how about if he turns up to do intimate personal care in your elderly mum?

Or strides in to do your smear?

Or volunteers at the rape centre?

Why is nobody calling us transphobic this time (plopper aside) - were saying nothing different to any of the other times this has happened. Despite it "never" happening, of course.

starcrossedseahorse · 28/12/2018 20:08

Hahahah yes misgendering people is so funny. Until someone dies from it

From twitter just now.

Popchyk · 28/12/2018 20:08

I do think that maybe certain people do this deliberately in order to sue the company that disrespects them (in their eyes).

I think a lot of people don't have jobs because of, ahem, problematic backgrounds, so this is a way of earning money for some people.

CarolDanvers · 28/12/2018 20:09

Imagine if this person was allowed to compete in sports against women

Indeed. I was actually reminded very much of dear Han Han who struck me as being of a similar build to the disgruntled customer shown in the video.

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CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 28/12/2018 20:09

Hahahah yes misgendering people is so funny. Until someone dies from it

Is that a warning or a threat?

NottonightJosepheen · 28/12/2018 20:10

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MrsScamander · 28/12/2018 20:14

And TRAs wonder why women are concerned about sharing toilets/changing rooms/domestic violence shelters with transwomen... Hmm

Cwenthryth · 28/12/2018 20:15

Imagine if this person was allowed to compete in sports against women.

We don’t need to imagine - people like this are allowed to compete in sports against women. It is happening already. See the very many threads on this board about that.

Hands up I’d have made the same mistake - I completely understand the second ‘sir’ as well, when faced with a shouting, threatening, aggressive male-bodied/appearing person (hope that doesn’t offend the Eyes), trying to calm them down politely, of course your brain immediately goes to ‘sir’. It’s not like the shop assistant called them a motherfucking cuntface dickhead man. They said ‘sir’!

I hope with this being widely circulated that charges are bought against this person. They are violent and aggressive and it is simply not acceptable to behave like that in public, no matter what anyone else has referred to you as, let alone a slip of the tongue when addressing using a polite title.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 28/12/2018 20:15

And TRAs wonder why

They don't wonder why
They don't care

Knicknackpaddyflak · 28/12/2018 20:17

I don't find it remotely funny, I find it terrifying. As I'm sure the assistant did.

If anyone was at risk of dying in that situation, it was not the six foot hefty TW having the whopping great aggressive tantrum and terrifying everyone around them. It probably crossed the assistant's mind that it might in his near future though.

starcrossedseahorse · 28/12/2018 20:18

Captain that is exactly what I wondered.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 28/12/2018 20:19

(hope that doesn’t offend the Eyes)

Oh, brava. That's a far better word for them than monitors.

Idontbuythejellybaby · 28/12/2018 20:27

I don’t consent to this either.

Popchyk · 28/12/2018 20:30

Clearly those two people referred to the sex of the person as those two people saw it, in the way that the English language is used every day.

The two people weren't trying to be disrespectful at all.

It was one of those times where reality collides with fantasy. And reality wins. Because most people don't live in fantasy.

The whole "Sir" and "Madam" thing is everywhere. And humans are very easily able to distinguish between the sexes.

I was recently at an antiques auction. The auctioneer (male) referred to everyone bidding by their sex - "The gentleman by the door" and "Goes to the lady for £90".

I think it is one of the problems when you spend your life in a closed environment on the internet where everyone praises you as brave and stunning. Real life is different.

BubonicBudgie · 28/12/2018 20:31

Anyfucker I don't doubt you have been misgendered, but young ? Surely not Grin

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