Misgendered and violent

[yiskasha]

I know it's from the Daily Mail, but I can't find anyone else reporting on it. I've never seen a woman tell a man to "take it outside" or aggressively kick a display down because they've accidentally been called "sir"... (hope the link works).

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6536045/Furious-transgender-woman-rages-store-clerk-calls-sir-instead-maam.html

Jaxhog
I get called sir at least once a fortnight by an unsuspecting student. Thankfully I take it as an absent minded innocent slip of the tongue rather than a slight on my appearance (especially given that I dress quite feminine at work)
A colleague got Mum before Christmas from a GCSE student. It was triggering for her obviously because the child was misparenting her.

I often get DH and DS names mixed up - am I mis-generationing them?

Of course you are.
Don't get me started on one of my relatives who thinks that 'thingy' and 'you know' adequately identify people. They're literally removing personhood from people.

And what do we make of my late MIL who quite consistently called each of our dogs in turn by his predecessors name?

Just seen this on FB
No shame 🙄
Positively puffed up with pride in fact

This is going to get worse before it gets better. it's so important people see these things.

Positively puffed up with pride in fact

How embarrassing

Well id be embarrassed at any rate

My son was called a boy at the hairdressers does she need a trim too? Yes he needs a hair also but to be fair he did have long curly hair

This is what hapoens when we live in a world where 99% of people don't know that wearing pink makes you a woman.

'Look at me!' Adopting sex stereotypes does not make a man a woman. How offensive.

Like many women I get mis-Ms'd all the time. Throwing a tantrum like this at every 'Mrs' would be an aggressive overreaction and probably get us arrested.

Kat Blaque's hot take on this incident:

twitter.com/kat_blaque/status/1079018159800111104?s=19

Cis people laughing at that video of a trans woman being misgendered and being openly and loudly upset about it is why I don't believe most cis people contain the depth to have empathy towards transgender people. Most of them will never understand the strength it takes to be us.

When someone goes out of their way to misgender you, it's them being an asshole. On a human level, it should register to most of you that's what that is. If you told me your name was Tom and I insisted on calling you Sandra, you'd probably feel some type of way about that.

I truly feel like trans people have evolved to a level of understanding that is unattainable to most cis people. The fact that we're still having this conversation blows my mind. The convo has shifted, but is still so much the same. I can only conclude that it's beyond them

Then there's a lot of woke folk saying that trans people have really opened their eyes to concepts.of gender and society

So it's changed from:
We want the video removed because it's staged
To
This isn't a true trans person it doesn't represent us all
TO
It represents us but CIS people make us do it?

do i have this right?

A billion and one excuses why awful behaviour and a complete lack of empathy, social awareness and self control ought to be excused.

No.

That emperor is also stark bollock naked, and a bad tempered, self important exhibitionist.

I have a short version of a longer name

I cannot tell you the amount of times i have been told that its not my name, that it isnt the name on my birth certificate, its not what people call me, and im then refered to by the longer name

Hundreds of times

And as yet i havent threatened them, caused them to be frightened of me or broken anything

I have however refused to engage with them and walked away

Bad behaviour is bad behaviour. How can some people just not see that??

Here's Rachel McKinnon explaining why not agreeing with everything a trans person says is gaslighting and injustice.

www.academia.edu/8423524/Allies_behaving_badly_Gaslighting_as_epistemic_injustice

Rachel doesn't comment about trans people not agreeing with women's other people's views.

They don’t care about anyone else’s thoughts.

Ah, but Rufus, you haven't had to live with the literal violence of being misgendered since you were in the womb. Ergo you haven't evolved to the higher level of understanding that trans folk have attained and you can't possibly know the daily erasure that this poor woman has suffered which finally made her snap. Or something like that.

SunsetBeetch

The sales assistant clearly did not misgender intentionally, he misgendered because it was so obvious to him, and everyone else in that store, what sex that person had been born.

Can you not see how counter intuitive and almost impossible it is for people to not misgender when they know what they see in front of them. If I gave you a cat and told you it was a dog would you really be able to speak naturally without inadvertently calling it a cat? Incidents like this do nothing to improve relations between trans people and everyone else. It will either make people unnaturally tiptoe around you or leave them too scared to say anything at all. Is that what you want?

And talking of empathy, can you not feel any for the sales assistant who is clearly kacking himself or the customers and kids in the store, who must have been frightened by that behaviour?

Actually morning

I bet it was happening while i was in my mums tum....

George? Dont you mean georgina? You are going to put georgina on her birth certificate though...youre not actually going to call her george

(Not george obviously

I take it all back, Rufus, you're brave and stunning.

Thingybob, SunsetBeetch was quoting from that twitter thread. It's utterly bonkers, but I don't think Sunset shares the view expressed!

Oic, thank you morning

Then there's a lot of woke folk saying that trans people have really opened their eyes to concepts.of gender and society

Some types of trans people have opened many eyes to 'concepts of gender'... more peaking all the time.