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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Miranda Yardley calls out the predator

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Nudibranch · 26/12/2018 02:25

mirandayardley.com/en/jonathan-yaniv-is-a-predator

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womanformallyknownaswoman · 30/12/2018 10:46
. The M.O. seems to be replicated everywhere

The history of the TG ideology and activism seems to lie in experimental treatment not clinical research conducted to professional standards.

I have to say the more I discover, the more I am questioning some previously unquestioned foundations of my own values. Also the lack of safeguarding throughout society makes me despair 😩

More mothers and older women would help I think on many of the professional bodies who set standards, guidelines and code of conduct. And why has non- debate become subservient to critical thinking, clinical research and engagement of differing perspectives?

womanformallyknownaswoman · 30/12/2018 10:51

Thx Rowantrees for the Corinna Cohn interview - such a thoughtful contribution by someone with a lived experience and the emotional development to consider the impact, support women and sex segregated spaces plus also acknowledge that their choice may not have necessarily been the optimum one - someone who says we must learn from others experience before children are transed.

CallMeSirShotsFired · 30/12/2018 11:07

People searching for his name are a largely self selecting group.

So, overtly linking his name to a highly publicised name like Harvey Weinstein (see pp) is a clever move and we should do more of it.

People may not know the exact details of HWs crimes but they will remember he is a horrible rapey motherfucker. Having this person linked as someone like him is an instant alert.

TimeLady · 30/12/2018 11:35

I'd like to hear the views of Stonewall, specifically Ruth Hunt on this - or is it still a case of Acceptance without Exception and #NoDebate, eh, Ruth?

When the shit hits the fan, we won't forget your part in all of this. Or your partners in silence.

Scientistagainsttranscult · 30/12/2018 11:36

There is nothing empirical or conclusive to show any positives of treatments given to these kids and no clinical trials or specific drug design. Treatments include cancer drug therapy treatments and they seem to have bypassed bioethics. Stating this was another thing I got a twitter warning for.
Additionally transgenderism and any link to genetics, genomes or neurons has been researched for decades. There has been nothing conclusive found, tiny sample sizes and no research performed that has been replicated or not discredited once peer reviewed. They cling onto intersex research which has nothing to do with trans. This is why science and medicine is being silenced and told to lie, because after years of trying, they can't prove any of their claims yet a huge amount of medical and scientific progress in other areas has been made in the same time frame. This screams there is NOTHING in anything they claim, NOT A THING yet when we say this we are told we're talking nonsense. I, in very basic terms and on the spot online one day wrote down female exclusive biology. It took merely 20 mins and spanned 4 document pages, all factual and basic so not hard to dispute and these men said I was talking nonsense. You could sit and produce a book full of citations and evidence purely on female biology and no matter how much info they have they will insist on lying.

Scientistagainsttranscult · 30/12/2018 11:40

*that should have read not hard to dispute if you had evidence, as in I'd not worded it hard to understand.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 30/12/2018 11:54

I'd like to hear the views of Stonewall, specifically Ruth Hunt on this - or is it still a case of Acceptance without Exception and #NoDebate, eh, Ruth?*

I honestly don't think that Ruth Hunt is going to say a single word against the TRA party line, whatever they decide that to be.

She sold her integrity and her soul long ago. Her speaking up for women now would be as big a change as Darth Vader going over to the Jedi.

R0wantrees · 30/12/2018 12:10

I honestly don't think that Ruth Hunt is going to say a single word against the TRA party line, whatever they decide that to be.

October 2018 Ruth Hunt & Stonewall's response to petition (open),
www.ipetitions.com/petition/dear-stonewall-please-reconsider-your-approach

"Since the planned reform of the Gender Recognition Act was announced a year ago, there have been daily articles and social media threads that question trans people’s right to exist, trying to undermine their ability to go about their daily lives free from fear and abuse. This week, a petition has been launched directly asking Stonewall to reconsider our work on trans equality.
The petition asks us to acknowledge that there are a range of viewpoints around sex and gender. Of course we know that these differing views exist, and have existed for many years. The petition also asks us to acknowledge that there is a conflict between trans rights and ‘sex based women’s rights’. We do not and will not acknowledge this. Doing so would imply that we do not believe that trans people deserve the same rights as others. However, we are unequivocal in our support of trans people’s – and everyone’s – right to equality and will remain so. Our motto is ‘acceptance without exception’. (continues)

www.stonewall.org.uk/stonewall-stories-category/come-out-lgbt/our-work-trans-equality-heart-our-mission-acceptance

recent threads:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/petitions_noticeboard/3384045-Petition-to-Stonewall

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3384407-Times-letter-petition-STONEWALL-CRITICISED-undermining-women-s-sex-based-rights-and-protections-Jonny-Best-et-al

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3384307-James-Kirkup-Spectator-lead-article-Trans-rights-have-gone-wrong-The-new-gender-orthodoxy-allows-no-room-for-dissent

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3384455-Ruth-Hunt-Stonewall-do-not-and-will-not-acknowledge-that-there-is-a-conflict-between-trans-rights-and-sex-based-women-s-rights

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3366278-Ruth-Hunt-Stonewall-CEO

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3069102-Stonewall-really-are-throwing-women-udner-the-bus-arent-they-sad

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3366612-Stonewall-100-per-cent-white-95-per-cent-male

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3404565-Is-the-problem-with-Stonewall

(WH interview with Bex Stinson Head of Stonewall's TRans Inclusion)
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3428918-Womans-Hour-Tues-20-11-18-Why-is-the-current-debate-about-sex-and-gender-so-often-called-toxic-we-hear-from-Bex-Stinson-and-helenlewis

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3416022-Stonewall-getting-pelters-on-Twitter

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3402395-The-hugely-lucrative-business-of-transgenderism

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3383823-who-is-the-driving-force-behind-the-trans-agenda

R0wantrees · 30/12/2018 12:19

Miranda Yardley article:

'Ma Vie En Rose: Ruth Hunt’s Rose-Tinted Trans*Goggles and the anti-Woman Politics of Stonewall
POSTED ON 16TH NOVEMBER 2017
(extract)
"I first spoke with Stonewall’s Ruth Hunt just over three years ago when the organisation announced it would be engaging with the transgender community. This resulted in the forming of the Stonewall Trans Advisory Group, you know that motley crew of transgender tyrants, including the self-styled (styled as if it were 1973) answer for any heterosexual woman who wishes to bring out her ‘inner lesbian’, Alex ‘Beardy’ Drummond. cheeky wink

Ruth, bless her fighting heart, has been defending transgender activists to an extraordinary degree, indeed there appears to be no transgression she cannot overlook with her inbuilt sense of forgiveness which seems divine in breadth and depth. She has embraced the very dogma that makes real life discussion, debate and compromise with transgenderists impossible, dogma which positions the interests of the T in ‘LGBT’ in opposition to anyone who considers biological sex to be important in any material way: trans women are women, no debate, end of.

Quite aside from it being cruel to humour delusional claims of one being something one is not, positioning one’s acceptance of an individual on a lie is outright dishonest. And anyway, what is a lesbian and gay group doing when it considers the thoughts and feelings of personal identity more important than the reality of our sexed bodies?

‘Trans women are women’ is a profoundly anti-woman statement, denying any questioning of this or debate is outright the sort of social justice fascism that typifies the regressive left and has led to the ongoing battle of self-identified women with penises against actual women, you know the sort with uteri and ovaries.

If feminism is an ideology that centres the interests of females, you know actual girls and actual women, and Ruth Hunt as leader of Stonewall is aligning with and even promoting dogma such as ‘trans women are women’, then both she and Stonewall are anti-woman and anti-feminist. What a sell-out.

Hunt’s leadership is inept. Having failed spectacularly to take adequate action over the assault of a sixty year old woman by three transgender activists (at least two of whom were male) in September this year, Hunt’s organisation waited three days before limply ejaculating a flaccid statement talking about dehumanising language and how violence is never the solution. Of course, the elephant in the room, being male violence against women, was recklessly ignored in favour of imploring:

"We must find a way to achieve and maintain equality for trans communities that does not cause emotional damage and that makes people allies, not enemies." (continues)

mirandayardley.com/en/ma-vie-en-rose-ruth-hunts-rose-tinted-transgoggles-and-the-anti-woman-politics-of-stonewall/

ProfessoressWoland · 30/12/2018 12:22

I doubt the likes of Ruth will change their tune (unless they can quickly rethink Stonewall's funding model), but it's time for 'ordinary' people who parrot TWAW to look at what it means in practice. Do they believe in jellybabies? Can a TW be a predator? Is the presence of male-born people in women's sports just a kick up the backside for female athletes, who until now just haven't tried hard enough? Should we ban the words Sir and Madam so that no TW has to trash a shop when confronted with this 'literal violence'?
And if safeguarding isn't a concern for the TWAW believers, why on earth are they so worried about the safety and rights of trans people?

TimeLady · 30/12/2018 12:40

Oh, I know Ruth won't back down. I just want to remind her - and Whittle, Morton, Sharpe et al - that we won't forget their complicity in all of this when their house of cards comes tumbling down.

TPWMNBN, our NUS friend, the litigious lawyer, etc might think they're important but they're just the poor bloody foot soldiers in this assault on women and children. Collateral damage. It's those who actively wield the top-level lobbying power in the AWA movement that should be held accountable when its over.

And I hope those academics enjoying the current funding arrangements get a rude awakening when the right questions start to be asked.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 30/12/2018 14:32

Does anyone else feel like they are reading a conspiracy novel?

Curiouser and curiouser.

TimeLady · 30/12/2018 15:16

Or we really are in The Matrix …..

R0wantrees · 30/12/2018 15:24

Or we really are in The Matrix …..

(extract)
"The Matrix may not have invented the idea of “waking up” to a new reality, but it certainly popularized it. We still see the film’s cultural footprint within our modern-day blockbusters, and the ideas and iconography of the film still thrive through internet memes. Looking back, it feels like the beginning of the cynicism that has become commonplace in our suspicious, conspiracy-theorising era.

It’s been known for years that Lana Wachowski is a transgender woman, but last year Lilly, Lana’s sibling, also came out as a transgender woman, leading to speculation that Neo’s story is in fact, a secret allegory for transitioning into a new gender. While I don’t believe the Wachowski’s included a transgender theme in The Matrix intentionally, it’s fascinating to rewatch the film in the light of their shared transition, and speculate on how the burden of their secret identities may have influenced their story.

The Matrix pulls inspiration from an incredible range of sources; anime, ancient philosophy, religion, and high-concept sci-fi. But no matter the intellectual and creative influences, the foundation of all great stories are based on personal experience.

Neo spends the majority of the film feeling out of place, haunted by the sensation that the reality he lives in, is ever so slightly off. He can’t put his finger on it, he tries to drive the thought out of his mind, but the feeling is inescapable. He is not the same as everyone else.

Neo lives two lives. One life is that of a mindless drone trapped an office cubicle, the other a hacker pursuing online havoc under his preferred alias, “Neo.” One conforms to and is trapped by, the norms of society, the other a free spirit with a new name. It’s worth noting that the authority figures and aggressors in Neo’s life refuse to call him by his chosen name, always referring to him as “Mr. Anderson.”

Eventually, Neo awakens, and is quite literally reborn, tearing himself from the mechanical womb and forging a new identity." (cont.)

www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2017/04/30/looking-back-at-the-subtle-gender-politics-of-the-matrix/#1613eded6210

WTFIsAGleepglorp · 30/12/2018 15:29

Twitter is awash with people openly proclaiming themselves to be "pedophiles", MAPs, NOMAPs and NOMAPALLYs and it's toxic.

Arguing that paedophilia is an orientation and needs to be included in the LGBTQ alphabet soup.

The big one is Ian Huntley. Apparently it's a Twitter crime to misgender a paedophile murderer....

Neurotrash · 30/12/2018 15:30

They also did Sens8 which has some interesting relevant themes and characters. Including that butch lesbians are not nice people.

NotBadConsidering · 31/12/2018 04:52

The predator has protected his tweets. Now only his bought bot followers can read them. Shame, I was enjoying seeing Miranda’s article being posted on everything he did.

Illyria47 · 31/12/2018 05:52

I think the world has gone mad when a despicable monster like Ian Huntley is allowed to even think about changing his identity to a woman let alone being able to do it. He and all other murderers of women and children, rapists, those convicted of sexual assault, should never be allowed to do this. It is an insult to women and girls. They should be named and shamed under their own male names. This makes me so angry. Who is going to have the courage in Parliament and the media to call this and the extreme trans ideology out. We women (and some men) are doing it and being vilified for it.

TimeLady · 31/12/2018 08:30

The KF thread now has female Reddit GC members posting Grin

favourite quote: "That feel when a bunch of old ladies who are probably your mom's friends find your secret GamerGate alt-right hideout."

so this unholy alliance shows no sign of stopping, and the fact that TPWMNBN has protected their twitter again shows it's having an effect. They can't be making any income if they rely on it for promoting product reviews. Their brand has now been well and truly trashed.

What's the end game, do we think? Getting the tribunal cases dropped would be a start.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 31/12/2018 08:38

I see that KF has renamed the thread title on He Who Must Not Be Named from LOLCow to HorrorCow.

TimeLady · 31/12/2018 08:41

Yeh, Defcon 1. Grin

Null is clearly on a mission.

R0wantrees · 31/12/2018 08:44

I think the world has gone mad when a despicable monster like Ian Huntley is allowed to even think about changing his identity to a woman let alone being able to do it. He and all other murderers of women and children, rapists, those convicted of sexual assault, should never be allowed to do this. It is an insult to women and girls.

Francis Crook executive director of the Howard League for Penal Reform "said that she was worried that ‘some men with a history of extreme violence and sexual violence against women have found a new way of exercising aggression towards women’.

‘These men are not transitioning because they like women and want to be a woman, but in order to exert a new kind of control and dominance over women, a sort of infiltration."

source:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5798945/Trans-women-convicted-men-attack-vulnerable-inmates.html

Claude Knights (safeguarding expert, 15 years as head of Kidscape , heads Anti Bullying charity and sits on Westminster APPG )
on sex offenders who transition and are afforded the opportunity to change their name and hide their history as a consequence & recent case of "Christopher Noble, 32, transitioned to Christyl Knight while behind bars for keeping a stash of over 4,000 vile pictures and videos of kids as young as six months old"

“Allowing these individuals to hide a secret past is a dangerous practice.”
“Anyone who’s fuelled the vile trade in indecent images of children and therefore contributed to their sexual abuse should not be allowed to change their name.”

Source: www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3006679/paedophile-jailed-transgender-christyl-knight-christopher-nobile/

merrymouse · 31/12/2018 09:02

These men are not transitioning because they like women and want to be a woman

As recent events show, transitioning is optional if nobody is prepared to define what transitioning is. Certainly it seems that a name change isn’t mandatory and a history of being abusive can be ignored.

Neurotrash · 31/12/2018 12:29

Infiltration is exactly what I've been feeling wrt people like MB claiming feminism for themselves and telling everyone off for not doing feminism right. And Alex expanding the bandwidth of being a woman. Et al. Etc. With haddock and OJ and various handmaidens being the shepherds.

Neurotrash · 31/12/2018 12:31

India on bb for example.

The media are complicit in all this too.,

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