******TRIGGER WARNING Powerful message from a midwife (re. the murder of Natalie Connolly) TRIGGER WARNING ******

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Relax, it's not a trans thread.

It's about the horrific murder of Natalie Connolly.

twitter.com/ThatMidwife/status/1075808892477693952?s=19

Who's writing to the Attorney General?

No it's not being reported now, I could swear it was at the time and my parents have definitely told me that people locally say so. But it's not unusual for stuff that might prejudice a jury to be removed from the public domain is it?

I’m surprised they didn’t just parade her underwear around the court room to prove ‘she wanted it’

As a related aside - didn’t Joanna Yeates killer lie to the court that she was up for cheating on her boyfriend and rough sex/being tied up?

There doesn’t need to be proof/evidence of anything - just having XX chromosomes seems to suffice that a man can do anything to a woman and get literally away with murder.

Hi - while i was updating the list of women who've died with "sex game gone wrong" defences, I found sentencing info for Gill Barter's killer.

Gill's is an extraordinarily similar case to Natalie Connolly's, but with a very different conviction outcome. He got life, min term 18 years, back in 2003ish.

I think the difference is that Gill did not take drugs, nor did she seem to want rough sex.

It's v distressing reading but you can find it near the bottom of this:

www.wecantconsenttothis.uk/

My God, that account for Gill, how sickening.

This is a weird thought but the village she lives in is a quiet little country place, I wonder if they were factors in cases that suggested that some victims were different from others? I think Natalie Connolly's killer was very rich, I am sure that played into it. Some of the victims had only just met their killer, in a couple of the cases they were prostitutes. Do all these factors play into the sentence given, as it all seems fucking random.

Also Janet Willoughby that is the most appalling thing.

And in the case of Vivienne Scott, "strangled by John Dudgeon (aka John Taylor)

"when he was a 21-year old DJ in his home town, he suffocated 19-year old Vivienne Scott, who had refused him sex." Taylor dumped her body, wrapped in rope, plastic and a piece of carpet near his home "and later claimed her death was the result of a prank which had gone wrong during a sex game."

The judge said Vivienne died after "horseplay". Dudgeon's defence QC said "his mistake was not seeking help when Vivien [sic] had died, if he had he would probably not even been on trial for manslaughter.""

I think we need to hold these judges to account. I honestly think if middle aged men were being killed in the same manner as these poor young women the legal professionals would have a sudden fucking rethink!

AG emailer
Petitions signed previously

This is barbaric. It's disturbing that we need to appeal this

I have added my voice for all women. As a daughter, mother, sister, aunt, friend and boss we owe it to all the women in our lives to say this is not ok. Natalie was murdered!

I've signed and sent email to Attorney G. I can't convey how sick I felt reading this piece, and I couldn't get the image of this from my mind since I read it.

Natalie was murdered, in cold blood, and then bleached.This man will walk amongst us again in a few short years. Chillingly sober thought.

It’s murder. Despite knowing nothing about rough sex there should be a safe word to stop. The fact that natalie took drugs, was drunk and had consented to rough sex previously isn’t relevant. Yet this seems to have implied something..... consent to death. I’ve 3 daughters and don’t know how to protect them from this, a life sentence for him is a must BUT more importantly is educating YOUR SONS!

I've emailed - thanks for the template. Truly horrendous crime & sentence beyond a joke.

I have already emailed the AG but I think it would be helpful if the next people to do so drew attention to the inconsistency in sentencing between this and the earlier cases.

Was Natalie trans as seems to be claimed in this twitter post?

No?

Hugh has a tenuous grasp on reality, he thinks there are six sexes.,.

But if she was, it doesn’t alter the facts of the case. This was a brutal killing and a ridiculously lenient sentence. It needs examining.

Is that not in reference to the trans prostitute that was killed recently

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/25/man-murdered-naomi-hersi-three-day-sex-and-drugs-old-bailey-told

What was the sentence in the hersi case?

The murderer got life.

www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjHjtHOt8DfAhUFRBoKHUclAqIQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fuk-england-london-46488650&psig=AOvVaw3dln_yqaH2C35yvMkcwzRj&ust=1546014677518385

And there you have it: appropriation in action. To use this powerful article about the murder of Natalie Connolly as an excuse to make it all about trans is disgraceful.

www.laurarichards.co.uk/featured/misogyny-at-its-worst-hernamewasnatalieconnolly/

Anyway - back to the subject of the thread and it's great to see so many women have written to the AG. Hopefully there'll be a prompt review of this shocking case.

I've just read another very angry and powerful article about Natalie Connolly: www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/dani-garavelli-disgusted-by-confederacy-of-lip-readers-and-hand-wringers-1-4848062

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The comments under that article - absolutely appalling. Misogyny and woman hatred dripping out of most of them.

I know. Such a good article and then all that bile.

Update:

I wrote to my MP and the AG.

I've had a lovely email back from my MP saying they understand my concerns and that they have made representation of all the points I raised to the appropriate ministerial department and will advise me of the response.

He should have been shot at dawn

Signed the two petitions. This case has made me so sad, and so angry.

Did anyone have a response from the AG email? I had a standard aknowledgement but nothing else. My MP has offered to raise it.