Period poverty / 'bleeders'

[Beagadorsrock]

"
❤️Jane Austen was a Super Plus fan, Lizzie preferred a Mooncup + Emma didn't leave Hartfield without her Thinx. But some bleeders in the UK can't afford sanitary products, imagine the scandal at the ball!💃🏽 Donate to @bloodygood__ this Festive Period & help someone's #flowhoho❣️"

twitter.com/ladycariad/status/1072068738147631104

Very disappointing. I can't believe we are back in the Middle Ages so comprehensively.
And no, using 'bleeder' is not "more inclusive" because it includes trans men. It is massively, massively reducing women to a (distasteful and historically considered 'impure') bodily function.

Can I start referring to men as "standuppissers"?

Some transwomen do use them, conditioned ones though.

Found this very special series of tweets after going down a rabbit hole on twitter. Apparently when the average person uses the word period, it is an ambiguous term which can mean any number of things.

OFGS, you are seriously out of touch with reality if you think any trans woman can have a period. Don't be so fucking ridiculous.

If they start to replace the word woman with bleeder I'm gunna lose my sh*#

I think I need to arrange Remedial Biology 101 for —twits— Twitter users.

Again.

Men
Do
Not
Have
Periods

Although maybe they’re epicycles

Any transwomen would be welcome to some of the periods I endured
as a young girl.

This thread is gold.

uh what? when people talk about periods they don't mean bleeding?

I don't have any mood changes as a result of my periods (apart from deep annoyance at having to faf around with sanitary towels). does that mean I'm not having a period?

seriously, these people will say literally anything won't they?

Bless her, all she heard was the command “ jump”and in her haste she got the wrong end of the stick.

Indeed.

Somewhat ironic that she went to a naice private school.

Ironic but oh so predictable.

Where the Venn diagram of ‘too dim to get a proper job’ and ‘too fancy to get a ‘common’ job intersects...

Illyria - I loved Longbourn too!

Ahhhh. Desperate to please men - is that in there too?

I see her in ten years time - living in the Home Counties with Johnny, a labrador and several children, bugging the hell out of the town ‘oiks’ by telling them all how to do everything.

And spend your time supporting a cause that helps them, or another cause close to your heart.

Because no woman can be angry about 'bleeder' while at the same time supporting causes that aren't afraid of the terms 'women' and 'girls'.

It’s like supporting a homeless charity when those who run it refer to them as ‘worthless, feckless or scum’. Why would you?

There was a media campaign a few years back that pretty much did that, IIRC. And expected the homeless to be grateful for it.

Was it Dapper Laughs or someone?

Whatever happened to him?🤔

Last seen in the dying throes of Big Brother I think.

www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/29949815/dapper-laughs-homeless-charity-shelter-doesnt-want-his-money

I'm working class, a closet bisexual, (and yes, white they got that right at least) and I e-mailed?

"I just don't even know how they've done that in their heads".

What's not to get? I think even most men would agree "bleeders" isn't a nice name for women of a certain age. And what if someone's not a "bleeder" any more (or never was?), you could hurt peoples feelings with that term (not the same as being offended).

Agree this crowd think they're all "woke" and "edgy", but they're more likely just young, naive and trying so hard to be rebellious but instead it's all just a bit too try hard, and they've ended up looking like eejits instead.

Is this where the types who used to use shit, used sanpro etc as art went?

*Should have added, I'm not English either. I'm not even on the same island as the English .

This whole transgender fallacy about periods has been around for as long as I can remember/when I transitioned.

For example:

mavenroundtable.io/transgenderuniverse/articles/my-time-of-the-month-as-a-transgender-woman-s5VLSxx6Qk6Y76mGeUz_LQ/

theestablishment.co/yes-trans-women-can-get-period-symptoms-e43a43979e8c/

But it's all a load of shit. The standard treatment is basically a conjugated oestrogen and an anti-androgen. The oestrogen is taken continuously and there is no "cycle" or "cyclical" symptoms. Yes, when starting on hormone treatment there are side effects which MIMIC (in the loosest sense of the word) menopause - ie hot flushes, sleep problems, mood changes and weight gain - HOWEVER these vanish after a month or 2 at most. They're side effects - NOTHING MORE.

Progesterone is not usually administered by GICs/specialists as it has little or no benefits on the feminisation of secondary sex characteristics.

Ok now strap yourselves in, here's the incredulous bit.

Some *trans (AGP) people do buy progesterone and self-med progesterone to cycle it to simulate a woman's menstrual cycle. Here is one particularly...umm..."interesting" thread. www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=236854.0 I needn't say any more - because quite frankly every time I see this crap I'm lost for words....

...I mean the bit about "needing chocolate" ...

*Trans women do not have periods. Transsexual women do not have periods. End of. It's appropriation at its worst.

But coming back to the original term... the whole thing is "inclusivity" at its worst. "Bleeder" is just dehumanising, reductive and fucking offensive. I mean, did they not actually TALK to women before they came up with this?!?

did they not actually TALK to women before they came up with this?!?

I get the impression they talk at women, rather than to them

It doesn't matter how many 'symptoms' of a period I get, from irritation to cramping, if I don't bleed I haven't had my period, and whatever time I start feeling cramps, the bleeding determines whether or not my period is on time or late.

This is so fundamental that we are here on this very thread discussing why some organizations see fit to reduce women to the general status of 'bleeders'. No blood = no period.

It doesn't matter how many 'symptoms' of a period I get, from irritation to cramping, if I don't bleed I haven't had my period, and whatever time I start feeling cramps, the bleeding determines whether or not my period is on time or late.

Now I'm well past menopause, any symptoms I get that vaguely remind me (I say "vaguely remind me because they don't even scratch the surface of the unremitting-for-a-week cramps I used to get every 22 days until I was 52) of period pain? Trapped wind.