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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Period poverty / 'bleeders'

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Beagadorsrock · 10/12/2018 14:07

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❤️Jane Austen was a Super Plus fan, Lizzie preferred a Mooncup + Emma didn't leave Hartfield without her Thinx. But some bleeders in the UK can't afford sanitary products, imagine the scandal at the ball!💃🏽 Donate to @bloodygood__ this Festive Period & help someone's #flowhoho❣️"

twitter.com/ladycariad/status/1072068738147631104

Very disappointing. I can't believe we are back in the Middle Ages so comprehensively.
And no, using 'bleeder' is not "more inclusive" because it includes trans men. It is massively, massively reducing women to a (distasteful and historically considered 'impure') bodily function.

Can I start referring to men as "standuppissers"?

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OrchidInTheSun · 13/12/2018 18:52

Guilty Feminist is now reaching for the 'their life is worse than mine/there's been violence on both sides' trope.

You may be guilty but you're no feminist

Period poverty / 'bleeders'
Bowlofbabelfish · 13/12/2018 18:53

Please feel free to add any I have yet to see/hear/be referred to as

‘Witch’ springs to mind.,,

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 13/12/2018 18:55

‘I have to go now. I have appointments...’
Translation ‘not listening lalalalalala’

VickyEadie · 13/12/2018 19:02

"Violence on both sides", though.

They can never cite a single, evidenced example...

Ereshkigal · 13/12/2018 19:04

She hasn't got any arguments. If she continued the "I'm so incluuuuusive and kind and reasonable" mask would have to drop. Because cognitive dissonance. So I see why she runs.

Ereshkigal · 13/12/2018 19:05

We see you, love.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 13/12/2018 19:42

But if you call a man a man. saying a man cant biologically be a woman, or call a person with testicles ‘mr’ and not ‘Dolly La Boob’ then yes, yes there is ‘violence’ from women 🙄

Im sure trans people get physically assaulted - mostly by men. That’s the nonwomen, cis men, lads, blokes, Assesss...

Melamin · 13/12/2018 19:44

Where women are too poor to afford sanitary products this is an outrage but the solution isn’t to make them rely on handouts

Sort of think this is why it is better to just put them in the foodbank collection - women need them, no drama. I think a lot of people realise this when given the tip. Also, the poverty issue is why the foodbanks exist and shouldn't so they need addressing together.

Ereshkigal · 13/12/2018 19:59

Sort of think this is why it is better to just put them in the foodbank collection - women need them, no drama. I think a lot of people realise this when given the tip

Agree.

HamiltonCork · 13/12/2018 20:19

Yes. I’d rather give (and have regularly given) to food banks as they are well run and organised by reputable charities with clear aims.

A lot of these new charities are run by chancers who don’t really want to do any work and are run by arseholes with a God complex.

Potplant2 · 13/12/2018 20:23

I hate that food banks have become normalised and we all just accept they’re there and feel virtuous for giving to them (I do too). Prior to around 2010 they weren’t needed and indeed people would have been outraged at the thought of them.

Bowlofbabelfish · 13/12/2018 20:23

Yup. I put a load of nappies in my last donation. Next one will have sanitary products too.

HamiltonCork · 13/12/2018 20:30

I hate that food banks exist too. Just so depressing.
But IME they seem well run and are clear about what they are trying to achieve

One of my big concerns about some of the small charities is they duplicate a lot of the work already done by others.

FloralBunting · 13/12/2018 20:55

Please do include sanpro in your food bank donations. The need for food banks is appalling, and systemic change is desperately needed (and I'd be photographed with a jolly Tory MP at ours over my dead body) but we help desperate people and if authorities aren't providing a safety net, I'll be damned if I'll let women go without necessities.

SirVixofVixHall · 13/12/2018 21:04

I put sanpro and pet food in my food bank donations. Sali Hughes has a scheme for donating toiletries , or they can be given straight to the food bank .

EeebyMum · 13/12/2018 21:42

She has the most delightful friends

Period poverty / 'bleeders'
SirVixofVixHall · 13/12/2018 21:49

🙄

VickyEadie · 13/12/2018 21:59

I sent her a really polite email explaining why I felt 'bleeders' was wrong. She didn't reply - and of course, she doesn't have to - but to imply on there that the emails she got were not polite is a big fat lie.

SirVixofVixHall · 13/12/2018 22:09

I can’t imagine any of us lot sending a rude email. Maybe she is so used to feeling in the right and being told she’s great, that she sees valid criticism and anger, when you have messed up, in a public role as “rude”.
I can’t get over what giant babies these people are. How you can work with asylum seekers and yet be bleating about people criticising something you’ve done is quite beyind me.

OrchidInTheSun · 13/12/2018 22:09

There literally is nothing worse than a middle class straight white woman is there? Burn the lot of them at the fucking stake Hmm

They all go in for misogynist tropes don't they? They're the 21st century version of ladettes. Just cool girls by a different name.

Is it me or do the Kevin and Perry years seem to be going on a lot longer nowadays?

ChewyLouie · 13/12/2018 22:19

Eeeby , the middle class, white mumsnet jibes are becoming tedious esp when written by people who will probably be just that a few years down the line 🤔
Is there a non white, non middle class, mumsnet that people can join? I’m off to find out, I have a feeling they’ll be voicing exactly the same views as seen here 😲

SirVixofVixHall · 13/12/2018 22:25

Haha yes, the Kevin and Perry years. So true. With the added incredibly sexist assumption that any woman on here with an opinion, who can express herself, must then by definition be English, straight, white, and middle class.
The thought that mumsnetters cut across the classes, across all sections of society, doesn’t occur to them.

Illyria47 · 13/12/2018 22:37

This is just a segue from the "bleeders" discussion. Has anyone read 'Longbourn' by Jo Baker. It is P and P reimagined from a female servant's point of view, and yes, washing sanitary rags is one of her tasks.I loved it and have got P and P out of the Library to re-read for the umpteenth time. She brings Mrs Bennett more to the fore in a sympathetic light. Do get back to me if you have read it.

adultFemaleElf · 13/12/2018 22:41

Somewhat ironic that she went to a naice private school.

adultFemaleElf · 13/12/2018 22:42

Illyria47 I haven’t but I like the sound of that.