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Nicola Huntley peak transiting the home countries over breakfast

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HockStock · 09/12/2018 10:54

Plenty of shares and dead naming going on.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6476107/Ian-Huntley-wants-sex-change-jails-start-new-life-woman-called-Nicola.html

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TheLazyDuchess · 09/12/2018 12:33

Sorry just noticed I posted the last quote twice

LangCleg · 09/12/2018 12:35

I think Ruth Hunt needs to explain why this is the right thing to do. After all that's what she believes.

Yes, Ruth. Come here and tell us. After all, Huntley is as trans as anyone, right? Do come and explain to we bigots so that we can best support this clearly heartfelt transition.

Alternatively, Ruth: fuck the fuck off to the far side of fuck. And when you get there, fuck off some more.

LangCleg · 09/12/2018 12:37

So those men who self-defining as women will be the absolute worst of the men in men's prisons. And those who pose the most danger to women.

And not just in prisons. Abrogate safeguarding and the absolute worst of men will be everywhere women and children are. As we do keep saying.

WhoGivesADamnForAFlakeyBandit · 09/12/2018 12:40

Given Nicola Huntley hasn't been convicted of anything, would she pass a DBS check? That's would be ironic, wouldn't it, given Ian Huntley is the reason DBS checks exist.

RiverTam · 09/12/2018 12:42

@MNHQ I know that you don’t permit misgendering and I daresay ditto for so-called dead naming but I really do think you need to make a stand with regard to this evil creature so that no-one need ever feel obliged to refer to him by this name. I for one will never ever do so.

incallthebloodytime · 09/12/2018 12:47

I think their talk guidelines mention him as an exception?

sackrifice · 09/12/2018 13:06

At least this might be the thing that peaks the whole fucking nation/world.

Given Nicola Huntley hasn't been convicted of anything, would she pass a DBS check? That's would be ironic, wouldn't it, given Ian Huntley is the reason DBS checks exist.

Huntley was mentioned in the Hansard discussion about the original GRA legislation.

AspieAndProud · 09/12/2018 13:18

Someone please ask Twitter if deadnaming Huntley will result in a automatic ban as per their guidelines and if not why not since they've done it to protect other sex offenders.

I think it was someone on this board who once said the only deadnames in this case are Holly and Jessica.

Ereshkigal · 09/12/2018 13:30

I think it was someone on this board who once said the only deadnames in this case are Holly and Jessica.

Indeed two ten year old girls who would be young women now.

rightreckoner · 09/12/2018 13:38

I think it was someone on this board who once said the only deadnames in this case are Holly and Jessica

Oh god. This has just cut through me. So much love and strength to their families.

BoreOfWhabylon · 09/12/2018 15:15

I don't think MNHQ will compel us not to use the MALE RAPIST AND CHILD MURDERER IAN HUNTLEY's 'dead' name.

I did ask about this when the Rules were first published and was reassured that mods were able to exercise discretion in these matters.

Ian Huntley is a child-murdering piece of scum who was, is and always will be a man.

UpstartCrow · 09/12/2018 15:26

No, fuck this, just fuck it. If you support self ID and say TWAW you don't get to pick and choose.
And everyone who has enabled this shit show can fucking own it.

Iused2BanOptimist · 09/12/2018 15:28

Absolutely agree UpstartCrow

Berthatydfil · 09/12/2018 15:39

@upstartcrow
“No, fuck this, just fuck it. If you support self ID and say TWAW you don't get to pick and choose.
And everyone who has enabled this shit show can fucking own it.”

Omg this totally 100%

VickyEadie · 09/12/2018 15:39

No, fuck this, just fuck it. If you support self ID and say TWAW you don't get to pick and choose. And everyone who has enabled this shit show can fucking own it.

Agree - how do the mods at MNHQ know who is righteous trans and who is not?

feministfairy · 09/12/2018 15:48

This is the logical conclusion of the trans umbrella - they need to own it and explain it.

indieshuffle · 09/12/2018 15:56

Completely chilling.

Unfortunately, I think the comments about being happy to see him have the genital surgery, are also a great part of what makes some men, judges etc, want to approve transition and surgery, as they see it as part of a punishment, and making rapists less of a risk.

Obviously they don't give a shit about the ongoing repercussions for all women of that though, and the fact that men like this are abusive and dangerous in other ways, and setting precedents etc. They just think "yeah, cut his bits off".

And if we did castrate men as a punishment for rape, that still would not make them women.

HollowTalk · 09/12/2018 16:02

It's the likes of Daily Mail readers who need to understand what's going on.

I completely disagree with this. The DM has been against this for a long time. It's The Guardian who needs to wake up to what's going on.

GreenHats · 09/12/2018 16:05

Let's face it the Stunning and Brave Ian Nicola is not going to get his her penis cut off however much we might wish it. Ian Huntley will be a proud possessor of a ladydick and he murdered those two little girls with his large and manly lady hands

TinklyLittleLaugh · 09/12/2018 16:09

People are not getting it. He can legally identify as a woman and keep his bits intact. He can be in a women's prison in full possession of his genetalia.

Ringbinger · 09/12/2018 16:21

This is horrendous for all the reasons already said. But adding that I feel sick at this pattern forming of men who have committed sex crimes going on to ‘realise’ that they’re women. It creates a link between sex offending and gender confusion that seems to imply that the reason they’ve attacked women and girls is because they are women and girls and no one understands them. It’s hideousky sick and depressing.

VickyEadie · 09/12/2018 16:48

People are not getting it. He can legally identify as a woman and keep his bits intact. He can be in a women's prison in full possession of his genetalia.

Over on the AIBU thread, a couple of people are trying to derail any discussion of it...

indieshuffle · 09/12/2018 16:57

People are not getting it. He can legally identify as a woman and keep his bits intact. He can be in a women's prison in full possession of his genetalia

Absolutely. I think even idiot and or manipulated judges think this will be the ultimate goal sometimes, but they should know that it isn't and doesn't have to be. It is sickening

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 09/12/2018 17:42

It is the logical conclusion of where self-ID of sex takes us

yes yes yes

if all it takes to be a woman is click your heels three times and say you feel feminine, then why isn't Ian Huntley a woman?

he's gone through the process right?

Macareaux · 09/12/2018 17:51

Absolutely UpstartCrow

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