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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bridget Clinch, formerly Matthew Clinch, sues female reporter for misgendering, wants $$$ (Australian)

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QuietContraryMary · 03/12/2018 08:20

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6449179/Former-soldier-sues-reporter-misgendering-people-Facebook-posts.html

Beth Rep, a feminist, paid for MTF Clinch's flights from Brisbane to Canberra to attend mediation in July, the intent of which from Clinch was to silence Beth Rep's FB page.

It is hard to see how any but the most entitled male could argue that she should be silenced from her own personal FB page, which is only visible to people who choose to view it, and which is it somehow made its way onto Clinch's radar e.g. via Sharing, could easily be blocked using FB's tools.

However, that is indeed what Clinch was & is complaining about

See
reason.com/assets/db/1528650368299.pdf "Name of organisation - Beth Rep (Facebook)" "Treated unfavourably because of my gender identity"
reason.com/assets/db/15286524027731.pdf

Also:
"I have spoken to Ms Clinch about what she is seeking to resolve her complaint, and she has advised that she is seeking the following:
An apology;
An undertaking from you not to post anti-trans or vilifying posts in future, and to remove those that are currently on your public Facebook profile;
A further undertaking from you to remove any anti trans and vilifying posts made by other people from your public profile, and to do this in the future if any more such posts are made; and
For you to participate in training about vilification, and trans' issues. "

Note that the complaint is basically a Human Rights Commission-type thing, the same sort of structure used to bully women into waxing the balls of paedophiles in Canada.

There is more detail on the July complaint here reason.com/volokh/2018/06/15/australian-politican-and-trans-activist

(The Daily Mail describes Rep as a 'radio reporter', from what I can see she is the news announcer on 1053 Canberra, which is a very minor AM radio station in one city, with a tiny audience, and it is not a role that would appear to afford her a voice to share feminist/gender-critical opinion - she is literally just being attacked for her Facebook account.)

(Oh, Clinch, predictably, stood for the Greens as a candidate in 2016)

Bridget Clinch, formerly Matthew Clinch, sues female reporter for misgendering, wants $$$ (Australian)
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AncientLights · 31/01/2019 17:05

Bumping and about to donate to Beth.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 31/01/2019 17:05

donated and bumping

Drookit · 31/01/2019 17:13

Donated.

Vector8 · 05/02/2019 07:35

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Katvonfelttipeyebrows · 05/02/2019 08:07

According to Bridget we're MRAs.

Grin

You sussed us out!

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frazzled1 · 05/02/2019 10:00

Wow Kat that article. Long on vitriol, short on backing up their arguments.

mavenroundtable.io/transgenderuniverse/articles/what-do-terfs-want-that-they-don-t-already-have-X8CUl7V400-IbwDeI2Tp8Q/

Clara Barnhurst sure loathes women connecting on MN or speaking out:

We hear more and more TERFs speaking over media outlets. Big established outfits like the BBC are all too happy to give them a spot to spread their agenda. Why? In the UK, they’ve been branded a hate group in all but law. Their rallies and symposia are plagued with last minute cancellations and counter protests. What’s particularly bizarre is they complain about being stripped of a platform on mainstream media.

It makes sense when you look at your average TERF: white, usually monied background. Educated, usually prestigiously — Oxbridge or similar. These women come from the most privileged subgroup of women. They are well connected and have access to mainstream media. They are getting a platform through that privilege, not because what they say is necessarily popular — in many cases, it’s just the opposite.

That might sound idealistic, but really it’s pragmatic. Nobody is going to persuade Mumsnet to change their behaviour. They’re too invested in the community of hatred; their habits are formed. But if we make their network unacceptable anywhere else, it will shrink as the more moderately-minded people fall away. The crazier we can make them sound to the mainstream, the less power they have.

What gives me hope is how difficult they’re finding it to actually meet in public. Sure, they can cause trouble on the BBC, but they struggle to do so in the street. They are unwelcome, even if they have a platform. I can only have faith that, like in the UK, Americans will reject this nonsense as they rattle their cages. An empty wagon makes a lot of noise, and whatever else TERFs may be, they’re not ones to go quietly.

2ndWaveFeminist · 05/02/2019 16:22

Damn since I was brought up in a council house I assumed we weren't from a monied background. They've been holding out on me,
wonder where mum and dad hid it Hmm

Knicknackpaddyflak · 05/02/2019 18:13

They're unwelcome.....? Sorry love, it's only to a small group of blue haired nutjobs.

The general public and venues are fine with women discussing the law - which is after all perfectly legal. It's the nutjobs' harassment that's unwelcome.

ALittleBitofVitriol · 05/02/2019 19:26

Lol, narcissistic projection is always so revealing!
Platform on the BBC, hi.larious.

welshgendercrit · 05/02/2019 20:35

Gosh, my working-class parents would have been amazed to think they were monied. Shock They had to remortgage their 2-up, 2-down house in order to kit my sister and myself out for university in the mid-60s.

OvaHere · 05/02/2019 20:44

Ooh Oxbridge I wish.

Question?
Can I identify as having been to Oxbridge? Northern ex poly isn't cutting it for me. Grin

Needmoresleep · 05/02/2019 21:10

LSE. Does that count? And not an Oxbridge reject either.

Blueblueyellow · 05/02/2019 21:52

I nearly had to stop reading when they said mumsnetters are the same as incels. Incels advocate rape and death to women, because they won't sleep with them. So no, not at all like a feminist.And for once I'd like to see some evidence of all the "hate" from people here about transpeople.These "journalists" or twitter commentators never give one shred of evidence of all this supposed hate speech.
Anyway Beth I'm just about to donate. Good luck, don't let the bastards grind you down.

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