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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Julie Bindel is on Woman's Hour tomorrow!

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PimmsnLemonade · 02/12/2018 22:58

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Melamin · 06/12/2018 10:21

Using the right language -what is the right language, who gets to decide what is the right language and where is that leading us?

deepwatersolo · 06/12/2018 10:29

Well Melamin the right language is the kind of language that is incapable of distinguishing between lesbians (or women for that matter) with and without penises.

Melamin · 06/12/2018 10:37

It is also interesting that those telling us how language should be used, thus taking away the words to describe what they mean are the ones telling us that language is evolving. —then evolving it for us—

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 06/12/2018 10:59

"The purpose of Newspeak was not only to provide a medium of expression for the world-view and mental habits proper to the devotees of Ingsoc, but to make all other modes of thought impossible. Its vocabulary was so constructed as to give exact and often very subtle expression to every meaning that a Party member could properly wish to express, while excluding all other meaning and also the possibility of arriving at them by indirect methods. This was done partly by the invention of new words, but chiefly by eliminating undesirable words and stripping such words as remained of unorthodox meanings, and so far as possible of all secondary meaning whatever."

LikeDust · 06/12/2018 11:12

I think the complaints about language shows how ignorant and superstitious people are.

In the past when a mum would say "don't walk under that ladder" and the kids ask "why not?" instead of the long-winded explanation that there could be someone up the ladder who could drop something and injure you or the ladder may not be safely positioned and fall on you, which could lead to a whole time consuming 'but what ifs?', the mum says "it's seven years bad luck!" - instant obedience and peace to continue on her journey.

With the 'transphobic language' superstition Linda Riley has been similarly controlled- "if you say that bad word, twenty transpeople will top themselves"...

If you say "I don't believe in fairies a fairy somewhere dies"...

It's superstition and really does not belong in adult secular discourse.

LangCleg · 06/12/2018 11:40

It's superstition and really does not belong in adult secular discourse.

This!

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