Lily Madigan and the School Saga

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Lily Madigan has been self-praising again, with more details about how they "sued" their school.

They hired a "team of solicitors", to "advice" Lily and the "principle" gave in on all their "demands".

The truth is slightly different.

Lily arrived at school wearing basically a boob tube. They were sent home because it was against uniform policy. Any girl wearing that for school would have been asked to change or go home. It's clear Lily was looking for a reason to kick things off.

Lily was not "made to wear a man's suit". They were asked to adhere to the school uniform - like any pupil. The girls wear a blazer too and can wear a skirt or trousers; many girls choose to wear trousers and the blazer.

Lily organised a petition. It was an ONLINE petition, quite different to a paper one. The support Lily claimed she had is very difficult to prove.

The school's staff tried very hard to placate Lily. They had meetings with their mother, the pastoral care team, etc - and got nowhere. It apparently caused distress to Lily's younger sister who was at school.

Lily contacted a solicitor in London. Because of the Equality Act the school did have to cater to transgender pupils - and when the school was informed of their obligations they changed their policy in accordance to the Act.

There was no suing of the school. There was no legal action, certainly no "legal battle", as Lily repeatedly claims.

There was no victimisation of Lily. Afterwards, the school said they had tried very hard for Lily and their words and actions had been deliberately twisted.

And now Lily still says that "they won", they "got it all", and that they did all this behind their parents' backs, and then "embarked on a media tour".

Lily's parents knew about it all, right from the day Lily was sent home.

Now it's all about hypersexulisation

First up this starts for school age girls really early.

And I think the boob tube reference has always been because that's apparently what they were sent home for wearing and was twisted to mean they couldn't wear the girls uniform. They sent this but it certainly does in more with what the school and other students say happened than what they say happened

As if they wouldn’t send home anyone else in a bloody boob tube!

@OlennasWimple

I hope that you are right about them, but seeing what is happening in the Labour party just makes me cynical about the whole lot of them.

Well precisely.

That was the point. That even the girls would be sent home for wearing that. But they twist it to mean They weren't allowed to wear the girls uniform

The school however claimed to be as supportive as possible. Goes to show it's never enough doesnt it.

I worry for all the youngsters following all this. Once they have what they want they will be discarded . And they are no safer than the rest of us. They really seem to think if they are a good ally, if they are nice , of they fight with them they will be protected somehow.

They won't. They will find out the hard way.

It will never be enough because that is not the point. It’s the drama and the victim crying. It’s the pushing until someone snaps so that they can shout ‘unfair poor me!’

It really is the rules of the pre teen dramas at play.

I wonder what they will do when it's all over...What's the next ploy to elevate yourself when really you are a no body.

Lily is going to be in for one helluva shock when adult life kicks in.

I would love to see Jess Philips targeted and I hope Angela Raynor gets the same
They are a disgrace to women
As a working class woman I had high hopes for Angela Raynor. She can fottfsof and keep Lily Madigans seat warm there
There is no party for the working class. It is so depressing. LM is everything that is wrong with the Labour party
It reminds me of a night I had with friends who are socialist workers. All middle class. They were arguing about who was the most WC. One said he was because he had worked one day in a factory when he was a student
At the time I was working 12 hour shifts while doing a distance degree to try and gain a professional qualification
Idiots. They don't have a clue. It's just game playing

Yeah, cosplaying working class lives.

@BubonicWoman

"There is no party for the working class. It is so depressing. LM is everything that is wrong with the Labour party"

It is indeed depressing, and has left me wondering who I will vote for at the next election. In the 1920's seven out of ten Labour MP's were from a working class background, now it is less than one in ten. Parliament is full of politicians who do not represent or have any affinity to ordinary people.

I have no issue with people in the Labour Party not being working class - it’s when they go all Pulp about it that sets my teeth on edge.

I have no issue with people in the Labour Party not being working class - it’s when they go all Pulp about it that sets my teeth on edge.

I agree. Mind, LM has no clue what working class actually means.

We were very much a labour family - dad was involved in the local party. He was a business owner, as were his brothers. They all worked bloody hard and got to university, then worked hard to build businesses. All being brought up on the arse end the city with no whiff of a silver spoon or leg up.

We were brought up to believe in fairness in society - making sure that everyone had enough, a decent roof over their heads, a job and food on the table. That those who made the laws and rules were accountable and no one took the piss. Hand up not hand out as the Big Issue says.

Dad will be rolling in his grave at this lot, as would my mum and grandparents. Labour is disgusting now (they have been for a while though).

Nasty, silly politics of the idealistic student, rude, racist, antisemetic, cliquey, hideously sexist and glorifying wee boys who are all of the above (and some). Not fair for all but fair for some and bugger everyone else. No no no.

We were brought up to believe in fairness in society - making sure that everyone had enough, a decent roof over their heads, a job and food on the table. That those who made the laws and rules were accountable and no one took the piss. Hand up not hand out as the Big Issue says.
There is still a massive amount of support for this perspective, and sadly no political party touching it (I suppose you could argue that May's one nation Toryism is similar, but she's not supported by the sharks in her party, so even if we believe she cares about people, her party seem not to).
Labour are a massive disappointment to me, I cancelled my membership a little while back. They play for woke points constantly, forgetting things the majority of voters care about. They pander to minorities but fail to achieve anything for them. They've got the vast majority of Asians voting for them but the Tories have appointed the first Asian home secretary, and have had two female prime ministers. It's all talk from Labour. I don't want a party policy position on Palestine, it's exactly the kind of thing a free vote is for. Recognising the Palestinian state as valid as soon as Labour takes office? Wow that's going to achieve so much for the Deliveroo driver living in a shared room. Passing self-identifying laws and repeating TWAW like a mantra? That's not going to get young families into a house.
Momentum are awful, focussing on identity politics and putting forward a clearly damaged individual who has issues with: eating food, earning money, telling the truth, understanding complex arguments, not fainting. This is the future of the Labour Party?

This is the future of the Labour Party?

Identity politics is the future of politics. The atomisation of society has been happening for some time now and identity politics is how it manifests.

People don't vote on issues that affect society as a whole: they vote on issues - and for candidates - that / who pander to the values associated with their identities.

Identity politics is the future of politics. The atomisation of society has been happening for some time now and identity politics is how it manifests.
Is this down to the short attention spans we all suffer from now? Or the self-centredness we have developed as "consumers" of society? Are we really not interested unless it's directly related to us and our little lives? I hate to think that's true. I think media coverage on politics has had a huge effect, personality politics and soundbite journalism driven by rolling news coverage with nothing to say.

People don't vote on issues that affect society as a whole: they vote on issues - and for candidates - that / who pander to the values associated with their identities.
Literally "lifestyle" advertising. I think the fact so many politicians now are cookie-cutter PPE graduate cum parliamentary researcher cum MP candidate cum MP leads them to latch on the bandwagon causes. So a lack of real world experience, a lack of personality - some of them could be replaced with androids and we wouldn't notice - means nobody is engaged by them or wants to engage with them.
Ask 100 people on the street who Chuka Umunna or Stella Creasy are. Then ask them who Tommy Robinson is. Or who Nigel Farage is. The latter two have never even been MPs but they are known. People have strong opinions on them. Dominic Raab? Nope.
The public was better informed in the days of Spitting Image - at least the person on the street might know a few Cabinet members.
It's all pretty depressing!

LM wasn’t referring to the Labour Party when she tweeted about the membership data. You lot are clearly only accusing her of GDPR breaches because LM is trans

mobile.twitter.com/aRichardWise/status/1077683625469063168

All that data is potentially covered by GDPR.

I love it when Madigan talks about things Madigan doesn't have a clue about.

"Just like that the Party is a better place"

"How dare you assume I'm talking about the Labour Party bigot!"

All data held by anyone is subject to GDPR. If you are a little business only selling to half a dozen people, their data is still subject to GDPR. Lily is rather a silly Lily isn't she?

If it wasn't so tragic, I'd be laughing at the irony of Madigan re-tweeting this from the Auschwitz Museum about a lady who was sent to a concentration camp for denouncing Hitler

Really perceptive comments / questions, Oink!

I don't think that shorter attention spans is the cause of atomisation, to be honest, as this was a phenomenon that political scientists were concerned with when I did my PhD and when dinosaurs roamed the earth.

I think it's more to do with culture changes, ie from more collectivist to individualist.

Are we really not interested unless it's directly related to us and our little lives?

Yes. But, rather than lives, I would use the word "identities". It's, sadly, a case of me, what I want, what works for me, what's convenient for me. There is very little thought to "what is best for society as a whole?". It's very narcissistic, which is dismaying.

Are we really not interested unless it's directly related to us and our little lives? I hate to think that's true.

I think MN is living proof that this is not true, certainly for a very large group of women in the UK. Even the responses on AIBU daily show a lot of concern for others, for society values. What MNetters say over and over again is that they are politically homeless. There is no centre left, socialist based, sane common sense party that represents their views. Interesting that this has happened as grass roots politicians stopped being selected, and most political front liners walked into posts straight out of university and come from a small incestuous group who move around political posts, charity leaderships etc like a game of musical chairs, have whopping personal agendas an ego to match and a lot of very odd niche ideology, and no grip whatsoever on the reality of the average person in the street.

The real talent in parties, such as Anne Ruzylo - now think what she could do in a senior position - aren't allowed up through the party. They don't think the right things, they don't look right and they don't make the right noises on cue.

I had to laugh at the non sequitur "Maybe read up on the GDPR and learn to be a better person". And here I was, thinking that the GDPR had to do with protection of data rather than being an agreeable or pleasant individual.

Madigan's tweets really are the gifts that keep giving.