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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

US Man Says He's Trans Just to Make Demands & Trouble At Work

89 replies

Vegilante · 08/11/2018 00:57

www.wweek.com/news/2018/11/07/a-transgender-powells-employee-says-the-bookstore-refused-to-designate-a-gender-neutral-restroom-in-its-corporate-office/

No demand or complaint by someone supposedly trans is too petty or trivial and for the press to ignore.

Now self-proclaimed non-binaries apparently expect to be provided with gender-neutral toilets. Because using a restroom that isn't tailor-made exactly for their special gender identity would violate their human rights & deprive them of dignity. Or something.

It's a real mystery why this guys co-workers didn't invite him to the ladies' lunch!

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Bowlofbabelfish · 08/11/2018 12:10

"People were so afraid to misgender me they would avoid talking to me altogether,"

Grin did they aye?

Yeah that’s exactly why they don’t talk to you. Totally why. What other reason could there be..?

R0wantrees · 08/11/2018 12:19

Current thread, OP PineappleSunrise wrote:
"Colleague - recently declared non-binary - has just had a moan about how much they hate diversity at work that only focuses on women, but doesn't non-binary people like "themself".

It's taking all my self-control not to point out that their natal sex is NOT EXACTLY INVISIBLE, so the vast majority of the population would automatically and unthinkingly categorise them in the "diversity for women" pot, ie part of the group that should be increasing its presence in our workplace. SO 'THEY' IS ALREADY INCLUDED.

Sigh."

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3417790-ARRRGHH-biting-my-tongue-and-need-to-vent

PurpleOva · 08/11/2018 12:23

Jog22 Thank you for introducing me to Portlandia! I've been in stitches watching them for the last few... and I'm sure I should be doing housework or looking after sick kids or something!

Knicknackpaddyflak · 08/11/2018 12:27

Yeah. Could the learning here be: if you make yourself bloody hard work and it's clear you'll throw a paddy if anyone gets your highly complicated language acrobatic requirements wrong, people won't enjoy your company and want to be around you.

Being the centre of attention at all times liked and popular is not a human right. Being [exciting identity] is not a short cut to popularity and nurture on demand without requiring effort or social behaviour from you.

PutYourShirtOnMartin · 08/11/2018 12:27

I wonder if his payslip reflects his non - binary status .... is he paid less than the men but more than the women?

And we know why the women made their lunch ladies only. Working with him must be exhausting - getting away is the work version of taking their bras off at the end of the day

BakedBeans47 · 08/11/2018 12:39

What a pain in the arse

WhereYouLeftIt · 08/11/2018 12:48

Y'know, he has an awful lot of names.

Zac, Zed and Zee.
Brewer and Brady Williamson.

His FB profile is in the name Zed Brady Williamson, yet he was employed at Powells as Zee Brewer. Almost like he didn't want them to know who he was ...

Chocolala · 08/11/2018 12:51

May he’s a US cousin of Hayden.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 08/11/2018 12:57

Oh, what a peach this one is!

I have to say, Brewer looks fairly unambiguous but perhaps this is a case of Gregory Murray syndrome. Is he inexplicably drawn to sparkly wellies? Because, as we know, that's the NB clincher.

NorasBarnacle · 08/11/2018 13:34

Knicknackpaddyflak
"Yeah. Could the learning here be: if you make yourself bloody hard work and it's clear you'll throw a paddy if anyone gets your highly complicated language acrobatic requirements wrong, people won't enjoy your company and want to be around you. "

I think there are better ways to express your (valid) point without resorting to offensive stereotypes.

PositivelyPERF · 08/11/2018 13:51

NorasBarnacle, it wasn’t just me that winced at that, then?

Zeugma · 08/11/2018 15:18

Maybe if they/Zie/hir/whateverthefucktheyrecallingthemselvestoday came right out and identified as a whiny self-obsessed idiot, we’d all know where we stood right from the start.

Seriously. I’ve been watching a lot of WW1 stuff this week. 100 years ago people were DYING. And I mean LITERALLY DYING. In mud, in gas, from bullets, from being blown to smithereens in the most fucking terrible ways imaginable. Children lost their fathers, women lost their sons and brothers and husbands, men lost their lovers. Do you think any of them refused to go over the top because they were being misgendered or they didn’t have a gender-neutral toilet in the trenches?

Jesus Christ. This shit makes me so angry I could scream. Fucking grow up and learn some humility, you unspeakable pathetic ‘non-binary’ arseholes

Sorry. But seeing 100 year old men and women weeping as they remember what happened to them in a long-distant war with emotions just as painful now as then puts a lot of things into perspective.

sillage · 08/11/2018 16:45

It's hard to tell from the article if "ladies lunch" is the name co-workers gave the meal or if that's what Brewer labeled it.

terryleather · 08/11/2018 16:52

Jesus Christ. This shit makes me so angry I could scream. Fucking grow up and learn some humility, you unspeakable pathetic ‘non-binary’ arseholes

This. With bells on.

WhereYouLeftIt · 08/11/2018 16:57

Spot on Zeugma. We do not know how pampered and privileged we are.

Sexnotgender · 08/11/2018 17:04

What a knob!

Love that they did a ladies lunch, smart women.

PipGoesPop · 08/11/2018 17:05

Look at me look at me look at me 😒

PipGoesPop · 08/11/2018 17:18

Got a cock and present as a man? Use the mens.

I'm sorry but saying 'they is doing what is right for thems' makes a person sound like they are either from the West Country*, a pirate or are 3 years old.

*Which is fine if that's where you're from or you are a pirate or 3 years old but for the rest of us it's ridiculous

Ijustwannadance · 08/11/2018 18:36

If he was the only one with a dick in the office, then he would've had the men's toilet all to themselves anyway! Spent entire life using the fucking men's loos with no issue but now demands mixed sex facilities.

No bloody wonder the women didn't want him spoiling their lunch. Probably fed up of having to pander to an adult male who thinks they are now special.

InionEile · 08/11/2018 19:00

If Powell's isn't 'woke' enough for you, you're the problem, not Powell's. It's an amazing bookstore and has a solid history of standing by the disenfranchised and supporting lefty causes.

Can't believe someone would make such a fuss about going across the street and up three flights of stairs to go to a public gender neutral restroom when there already was one they could use in a small, private office where no-one would question how they present because their colleagues already knew that they were nonbinary.

Surely the whole point of gender neutral bathrooms is for nonbinary / trans people to not be harassed for using the 'wrong' bathroom? That's impossible if you're in a private office and everyone already knows you're nonbinary.

Clearly just a difficult person going out of their way to sulk about no-one recognizing their special yoonique identity. All they're going to achieve is to make employers more hesitant about hiring nonbinary people in future. I feel bad for anyone who is genuinely trans and has had surgery, years of pain etc only to be upstaged by an eejit like this.

Plessis · 08/11/2018 19:02

I'm sorry but saying 'they is doing what is right for thems' makes a person sound like they are either from the West Country

LOL

Ereshkigal · 08/11/2018 19:08

I feel bad for anyone who is genuinely trans and has had surgery, years of pain etc only to be upstaged by an eejit like this.

Even the newer non transsexual but "binary" TRAs are like turkeys voting for Christmas supporting this ideology.

KatVonGulag · 08/11/2018 19:49

Zac/Zed/Zee
Has spoken!

US Man Says He's Trans Just to Make Demands & Trouble At Work
US Man Says He's Trans Just to Make Demands & Trouble At Work
KatVonGulag · 08/11/2018 19:51

Funny that pronoun thing.
Zac/Zed/Zee doesn't mind being complimented as a man. And his new Facebook has Zee as a woman.

So thems has used both sets of sex pronouns.
No wonder his poor colleagues are confused.

US Man Says He's Trans Just to Make Demands & Trouble At Work