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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Thought Terminating Cliches

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AspieAndProud · 30/10/2018 20:33

‘Transwomen are women,’ ‘born in the wrong body,’ ‘better to have a daughter than a dead son’ and ‘literal violence’ appear to be perfect examples of thought terminating cliches, a concept used in the study of ‘thought reform’ (what most of us would call ‘brain washing’). Their purpose is to end a discussion before it actually begins.

A thought-terminating cliché is a commonly used phrase, sometimes passing as folk wisdom, used to end cognitive dissonance (discomfort experienced when one simultaneously holds two or more conflicting cognitions, e.g. ideas, beliefs, values or emotional reactions). Though the phrase in and of itself may be valid in certain contexts, its application as a means of dismissing dissent or justifying fallacious logic is what makes it thought-terminating.

The term was popularized by Robert Jay Lifton in his 1956 book Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism. Lifton said, “The language of the totalist environment is characterized by the thought-terminating cliché. The most far-reaching and complex of human problems are compressed into brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases, easily memorized and easily expressed. These become the start and finish of any ideological analysis.”

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_cliché

Anybody think of other common examples?

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AspieAndProud · 30/10/2018 20:36

I’ll add another: ‘You are denying my existence’.

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Melamin · 30/10/2018 20:38

Live and let live?

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 20:39

'Just need to pee'

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 20:40

'We are more than just our genitals'

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 20:40

'Quietly getting on with our lives'

NoseringGirl · 30/10/2018 20:41

'Wrong side of history'

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 20:41

'Just want to become/be accepted for who we are'

arranfan · 30/10/2018 20:43

But I love him/her.

You're denying my right to exist.

You're denying my reality.

It is what it is.

ThePrincipal · 30/10/2018 20:46

Trans rights are human rights

ThePrincipal · 30/10/2018 20:46

But it is what it is is actually useful

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 20:50

'Suffer more violence than any other group'

'Are more marginalised than any other group'

'Suffer more discrimination than any other group'

heresyandwitchcraft · 30/10/2018 20:50

Trans exclusionary radical feminist

AspieAndProud · 30/10/2018 20:54

Yes, ‘terf’ is definitely one.

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RedToothBrush · 30/10/2018 20:55

Better a trans daughter than a dead son.

AspieAndProud · 30/10/2018 20:57

‘It’s just a simple administrative change’

‘Assigned sex at birth’

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Spasm0dic · 30/10/2018 20:58

Women want to annihilate trans people

Ereshkigal · 30/10/2018 20:59

Sex is a spectrum

arranfan · 30/10/2018 20:59

Decades ago I read a poem about a woman whose speech was described as being dispensed from her mouth, with sentences tightly wrapped as if from a vending machine.

It was in a collection with Louis Macneice and I can't find it but that image as stuck with me for decades - I remember thinking that because the phrases were pre-loaded, it wasn't possible to have a conversation with the subject of the poem. Not that I knew it then, but it would have been likely an early Eliza/AI test.

Spasm0dic · 30/10/2018 20:59

‘The clock struck thirteen’, to throw some Orwell in the mix

Stevienickssleeves · 30/10/2018 21:00

This is where calling someone a name: 'transphobe', 'tory', 't*rf' means the conversation is over and the person no longer has to listen to anything you have to say.

hackmum · 30/10/2018 21:00

Trans women are women.

Ereshkigal · 30/10/2018 21:00

Trans women have already had the right to access women's spaces since 2010

Ereshkigal · 30/10/2018 21:01

You can exclude trans women as long as it's a proportionate means to a legitimate aim.

AspieAndProud · 30/10/2018 21:03

‘Transphobe!’

‘Hate speech isn’t free speech!’

‘Stop silencing me!’

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ThePrincipal · 30/10/2018 21:03

Bigot

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