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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Thought Terminating Cliches

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AspieAndProud · 30/10/2018 20:33

‘Transwomen are women,’ ‘born in the wrong body,’ ‘better to have a daughter than a dead son’ and ‘literal violence’ appear to be perfect examples of thought terminating cliches, a concept used in the study of ‘thought reform’ (what most of us would call ‘brain washing’). Their purpose is to end a discussion before it actually begins.

A thought-terminating cliché is a commonly used phrase, sometimes passing as folk wisdom, used to end cognitive dissonance (discomfort experienced when one simultaneously holds two or more conflicting cognitions, e.g. ideas, beliefs, values or emotional reactions). Though the phrase in and of itself may be valid in certain contexts, its application as a means of dismissing dissent or justifying fallacious logic is what makes it thought-terminating.

The term was popularized by Robert Jay Lifton in his 1956 book Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism. Lifton said, “The language of the totalist environment is characterized by the thought-terminating cliché. The most far-reaching and complex of human problems are compressed into brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases, easily memorized and easily expressed. These become the start and finish of any ideological analysis.”

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_cliché

Anybody think of other common examples?

OP posts:
Ereshkigal · 30/10/2018 21:03

It's good that you want to exclude men. I agree. But as I'm a woman you have to include me.

AspieAndProud · 30/10/2018 21:04

‘Right-wing feminists!’

OP posts:
Ereshkigal · 30/10/2018 21:05

I want to fuck up some TERFs, they are worse than fash.

Ereshkigal · 30/10/2018 21:06

Two spirit people

Existed in all cultures across time and space

Ereshkigal · 30/10/2018 21:08

I have a statistical life expectancy of 35

Ereshkigal · 30/10/2018 21:10

Trans women have a 1 in 12 chance of being murdered. 1 in 8 for TWOC,

Ereshkigal · 30/10/2018 21:11

Biological essentialism, gender essentialism, genital essentialism.

WomanOfTime · 30/10/2018 21:16

[Your view is] erasing our existence

[This woman's opinion/presence] makes me feel unsafe

Transwomen are valid
Non-binary people are valid

You can't possibly tell what sex a person is unless you're tested their chromosomes/inspected their genitals.
Leading to -> GC feminists want compulsory genital inspections before entering women's spaces.

bluetitsaretits · 30/10/2018 21:16

Literal violence.

Love is love.
(That one makes me barf)

Spasm0dic · 30/10/2018 21:41

She got her Female penis out

QuentinWinters · 30/10/2018 22:00

Why are you so interested in the contents of my pants?
Vagina fetishist

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 22:01

'It's like drinking from separate water fountains'

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 22:02

Suicide

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 22:06

No two women are the same (therefore women as a category is so wide it can meaningfully include men).

AspieAndProud · 30/10/2018 22:07

It’s 2018!

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LikeDust · 30/10/2018 22:09

White

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 22:11

Women of colour

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 22:11

LGBTQIA

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 22:12

Its like Section 28

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 22:15

Check your privilege

Badstyley · 30/10/2018 22:19

If you get attacked in the toilets you can call the police.
You’re denying my right to exist.
It’s no different to race segregation in America. I think we had that one on here earlier today.

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 22:20

Oh yes!

There are much easier ways of (getting around prohibitive safeguards).

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 22:23

I AM A WOMAN
I AM A REAL WOMAN
I AM FEMALE
I AM A WOMAN JUST LIKE YOU
Why should I face the indignity of gatekeepers?

VickyEadie · 30/10/2018 22:24

This never happens.

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 22:25

Just accept us for who we say we are.