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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Thought Terminating Cliches

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AspieAndProud · 30/10/2018 20:33

‘Transwomen are women,’ ‘born in the wrong body,’ ‘better to have a daughter than a dead son’ and ‘literal violence’ appear to be perfect examples of thought terminating cliches, a concept used in the study of ‘thought reform’ (what most of us would call ‘brain washing’). Their purpose is to end a discussion before it actually begins.

A thought-terminating cliché is a commonly used phrase, sometimes passing as folk wisdom, used to end cognitive dissonance (discomfort experienced when one simultaneously holds two or more conflicting cognitions, e.g. ideas, beliefs, values or emotional reactions). Though the phrase in and of itself may be valid in certain contexts, its application as a means of dismissing dissent or justifying fallacious logic is what makes it thought-terminating.

The term was popularized by Robert Jay Lifton in his 1956 book Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism. Lifton said, “The language of the totalist environment is characterized by the thought-terminating cliché. The most far-reaching and complex of human problems are compressed into brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases, easily memorized and easily expressed. These become the start and finish of any ideological analysis.”

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_cliché

Anybody think of other common examples?

OP posts:
arranfan · 30/10/2018 22:26

I feel like [ X] and you can't possibly disagree as you can't see inside my head.

I refuse to walk around with a Star of David in my bag.

Fallingirl · 30/10/2018 22:28

Brave & stunning.

PutYourShirtOnMartin · 30/10/2018 22:29

Biology goes further than high school education

And the best I have seen recently
Estrogen makes the cells turn female 🤣🤣🤣🤣

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 22:32

Clownfish

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 22:35

Transitioning causes impotence in smoother penises so how would it be possible for a TW to be a sex predator?

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 22:35

Educate yourself

Freespeecher · 30/10/2018 22:39

#nodebate

Freespeecher · 30/10/2018 22:40

'I find that offensive'.

LangCleg · 30/10/2018 22:44

Educate yourself.

LangCleg · 30/10/2018 22:44

Darn. Too late!

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 22:56

Acceptance without exception

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 22:59

Allies

Freespeecher · 30/10/2018 23:04

'You can't hug the world with nuclear arms'.

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 23:16

God made a mistake

LikeDust · 30/10/2018 23:18

Totally reversible

ThinkIveFoundYourMarbles · 30/10/2018 23:44

Constant invocations of gay rights analogies.

theOtherPamAyres · 31/10/2018 00:59

"if only you took the time to listen and get to know us, you would see..... (that we are really nice and you'd be sorry)... etc"

"(Name of critic or woman's organisation) doesn't care about women"

"I've been using (women's facility) for yonks, and no-one has ever objected"

"They are not genuine transwoman" (when referring to those who expose themselves, display their fetish, hide in plain sight to gain access and overcome safeguards)

"It's a level playing field because she has lowered her testosterone level somewhat" (when referring to a hulking great athlete/weight lifter or rugby player)

FadingMint · 31/10/2018 01:22

"However, there are still gaps in trans people's legal rights and protections and I believe more needs to be done to ensure people feel that the UK is a country in which identity is respected and supported."

This is part of the reply I received from my MP when I wrote to her to ask her to drop in at the HoC Fair Play for Women information session.

So - what are the "gaps in trans people's legal rights and protections..." then? Any answers?

What about the rights of women to not have men intruding on us, targeting us with abuse, oppressing us?

deepwatersolo · 31/10/2018 01:24

TINA (there is no alternative).

IdaBWells · 31/10/2018 04:03

Be kind.

RudeZebra · 31/10/2018 04:58

"We live in a patriarchy"

Turph · 31/10/2018 05:43

"Go read a book"
#nodebate
Anything that invokes Godwin's Law
Current year meme

WomanOfTime · 31/10/2018 08:45

White middle-class feminists

Cwenthryth · 31/10/2018 09:21

“Women already have equality”
“Feminism has gone too far”
“What about equal rights for men?”
“I don’t believe in politics”

ChattyLion · 31/10/2018 09:58

‘I’m happy to be called a cis woman, TW are my sisters’