Kai Shappley: A Trans Girl Growing Up In Texas

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New video, by the pro-trans, queer arm of Conde-Nast called "them", about a very young transgender MtF child whose mother is suing local & state authorities for not letting the child use the "women's room" at school.

The video is far more revealing than either mom or filmmakers realize.

Mom recounts her extreme homophobia, which led her to inflict draconian cruelty & physical abuse on her poor child for the "sin" of "acting like a girl" & "liking girl toys". But no matter how much mom beat her girly pre-schooler, he "persisted" in acting girly & liking girly things. Finally, at approx 7:30, mom recounts realizing before Kai was 3 that he "might be gay. And I thought that could not happen. That would not happen..." Unable to live & let live, mom's only option "to make Kai not like this" is conversion therapy, which entailed "spanking her - really spanking her" every time Kai acted girly.

But as her probably gay little boy remained deeply unhappy, attempts to punish him out of being girly all failed. So after a staged shot of the child praying for his family to have love & courage, at approx 9:00 mom recounts her Damascene realization: "my kid was praying to die. All of the information & data that I had read about transgender children having a 41 percent risk of attempting suicide came flooding back & I realized that I had a 4-year-old who was begging the Lord to let her die... (rather than) stay here & have to live as a boy one more day."

From 11:28 on there's a clearly-scripted & rehearsed scene in which the child complains about his school. What 6 yo speaks of using the "women's bathroom" at school (where kids would call it the "girls' bathroom'")? There's some weird, incoherent stuff about how having locks on the doors & "people stealing magnets" make the the boy pee in his pants. None of this makes sense. But surely it's cruel to make a child recount his/her experience of bladder "accidents" for a YT video when the child says he's embarrassed by them.

To top it off, this young child by the end is blaming his bladder accidents not just on locks & magnets, but on other people he's been told to blame - specifically his teacher's boss. Clearly this youngster has been coached to see all problems he encounters as the fault of others. Talk about male socialization!

Throughout, what the video actually shows contradicts what the mother says in her voiceover.

I see what this video recounts as child abuse done in the name of religious fanaticism. The real transition here is the mom's. She starts off as a conservative Christian zealot & at the end she's an acolyte of the woke new cult of transgenderism.

I read an article about this case the other day. It's a textbook example of the truly regressive, hyper conservative nature of the trans ideology, tbh.

I thought the mums opening statement was a measure of it. When she was talking about kai not being like her male babies.

I mean wtf? And beating the gay away???!!!! Woman's a lunatic

As for the toilet situation. Unisex provision alongside sex based should help children like Kai.

I couldn't watch it all but noticed that Kai and mum talked about an older sister and how Kai's behaviour as a baby was like the older sister but she had never wanted her hair done in such a 'girly' way as Kai does. Kai says 'but maybe she does now and we don't know' and the mum agrees.

Where is the older sister? Why isn't she in contact with the rest of the family? She isn't mentioned in any of the many interviews Kimberley has done (and neither is Kai's father).

Incidentally, Kai has always had access to gender neutral bathrooms in the school but mum is pushing for access to girls' bathrooms.

This woman is an abusive homophobe.

This trans girl featured in a film which was shown at a church event I went to recently about transgender children. It was a different film (I can't find it online) - many narratives of children and teens including one who had surgery. Kai was one. Some of the footage was in both films. They were all American and some were taking a Christian angle on the issue which I guess is why the film was used at the event.

I was horrified by how every single one related their story through sex stereotypes - usually clothes and hair. But there was a shot of a trans girl in ballet lesson, stuff about toys etc. It was awful. None of the young children (some as young as 4 or 6 I think) expressed any actual discomfort with their body, they only expressed discomfort with what was expected of them because of being male or female.

If anyone knows what the film I am looking for is I would be grateful.

Three clergymen spoke. One spoke sense. One was so happy clappily in love with the whole idea of being supportive and loving towards people that he had fog in front of his eyes about what this actually is. Dodgy suicide stats were quoted. Aaagh.

I came home and cried and then drank too much red wine.

I have since emailed the clergyman who spoke sense to just agree with him and say thanks for saying it. I can't bring myself to write to the one who was super positive (even about medical transition for children/youth). I really should but I don't know how the hell to start.

Anyway this film about Kai linked above just further illustrates one of the problems which was obvious in the film I saw too. This time with explicit homophobia. Thanks for posting it.

I’m not at all religious so please forgive me if I inadvertently offend someone.
Presumably if your child is trans (with all the fake hormones and horrific surgeries) you are making a public statement that God made a mistake. I thought he was supposed to be infallible. I just don’t get it.

Cleansing out the gay. Trans is now the marginal.

Oh and the bible is so important in all of this.

Munchausen by Proxy is written all over this.

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Yep.

The child was probably praying to die because their mother was breathing seven bells out of them.

Better trans than gay, eh?

So how do the religious loons reconcile god making a mistake (oops, gave that one a willy by mistake) and god being infallible?

God isn't literally infallible, as in never makes mistakes. God sometimes sets his true believers challenges to test their faith (such as them having no money, or cancer, or being beaten by their parents)

The overlap between religious conservatism and transgenderism is significant, especially in the US (and Iran)

Oh I see. I never liked the story of Job.

So how do the religious loons reconcile god making a mistake (oops, gave that one a willy by mistake) and god being infallible?

We live in post-lapsarian times ... it's all Eve's fault, of course.

How anyone can watch that & not be horrified is beyond me. What has happened to the older sister? Where is the father? The Mum has admitted beating her son....and is now lying to them saying they are a girl. Child abuse.and the little child looks so cute, perfect poster child for the trans agenda, sickening.

As the mother of a gay son this just makes me profoundly sad.

God isn't literally infallible, as in never makes mistakes. God sometimes sets his true believers challenges to test their faith (such as them having no money, or cancer, or being beaten by their parents)
I’m sorry but this is just not true. God may allow suffering to continue, but he is never the cause.

He messed with Job surely?

No, he didn’t prevent others from messing with him.

So how do the religious loons reconcile god making a mistake (oops, gave that one a willy by mistake) and god being infallible? The question of whether God had made a mistake was asked at the event I went to - it was dismissed straight away - Christians don't really think in terms of God making mistakes. People get ill, and babies are born with major problems, and horrible thigs happen , and the faithful make sense of it in lots of different ways. Any life experience can be incorporated into someone's faith. Like someone said upthread it might be a trial, or part of Gods plan for the person, or maybe they don't view it as being caused by God directly, but turn to him to help them get through it.

The 'born in the wrong body' suggests a mistake by god (someone somewhere said it sounded like an accident in a cosmic bottling factory) but you could just as easily view it as 'some of god's children are trans' and then you don't have to ask the question why and how?

Conservative religious households/communities are the perfect context for making kids question whether they really are the sex they are. Because they exaggerate the differences between men and women, and define the roles very separately. Its might be easier for a Texan Southern Baptist family to say: 'that's my daughter with the long hair playing with the dolly', than 'that's my son, with the long hair playing with the dolly'.

This article was linked to here on mumsnet and is really good
www.opendemocracy.net/transformation/t-m-murray/why-are-religious-conservatives-embracing-transgender-rights

I can’t imagine beating my lovely little child for the toys they want to play with or the clothes they like.

I never laid a hand on DS. I was at a lecture about child/teen development and one thing really stuck - conflict is often when the child isn’t what you think they should be (different from you).

TheHarpy - I agree. And yet it's a fairly common feature in the back stories of various TRAs, such as Paris Lees

Beating a small child - by someone who is supposd to love and cherish them. I can’t see that morphing into something unpleasant/unhealthy in future relationships can you?

At the moment I am fascinated by the mixed narrative of 'God made a mistake' quotes, coupled with the mainstream Christian teaching that God made you as you are.

What appears to be emerging is a theology/general narrative where the child is said to have expressed the belief that 'God made a mistake', and adults pressing a version of 'God made you as you are' that doesn't mean 'You are a boy who likes baby dolls', it means, 'God made you a girl, but with a condition that means you appear to be a boy so we would treat your body to conform according to all the things we have discovered'.

It's close enough to the mainstream teaching of accepting our material bodies as they are, mixed in with an understanding of a 'fallen' world, that it flies very well in those religious communities who still can't cope with teh gay or non conforming among us, but wish to be seen as more progressive.

It's quite frustrating to me that in Christian circles, there is either still a fairly firm rejection of homosexuals, and a hard pass on transgenderism, or an acceptance of homosexuality and an uncritical swallowing of the transgender ideology.

The only other permutation seems to be this awful pro-trans homophobia.

Being entirely fine with homosexuality and also entirely GC is as rare as anything I can think of. I'm penned in on either side among other Christians.

I rely on my belief in God and the teachings of the Bible to protect my daughter and her friends from whacked-out trans people who might otherwise come to their school to do some conversion therapy.
I feel deeply betrayed by the Archbishop et al with their supportive ‘this is how we can get gays into church’ rubbish. If you want gays in church, invite them.