M&S launches porn star martini in a can

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Keeping it classy, M&S.

Anyone use the M&S live chat successfully? I've waited to live chat and before anyone answered they ended the chat saying it's not available.
www.marksandspencer.com/MSContactUsCmd?storeId=10151&langId=-24&catalogId=10051&categoryId=282501&byEmail=8

I don’t understand why you are getting so much flack for this op. Surely the normalising of porn culture, the everyday trivialising of something so harmful to women has an impact on the lives of all women and girls ?
When I was a teenager, if I wanted to buy a packet of peanuts in a pub, the barman would pull the packet off a cardboard holder that had a picture of a topless woman underneath. That was normal in 1981, along with nude calendars if I went with one of my parents to the garage to get new tyres, or into a taxi rank, or a chip shop. I hated it. Things really seemed to have moved forward .Sadly not. This tin of booze may seem a small and inconsequential thing to get het up about, but it is the drip drip drip of porn in our culture that harms us.
I go in Marks and Sparks with my daughters, and I don’t want them to see this , I find it depressing actually, how inured we are to porn culture, and how I’ve seen posters on mumsnet comment on how it is wrong to let kids run around naked in the beach, yet think this is fine.

It's an established cocktail name. It's not a bloody feminist issue.

PORN and ownership of women’s bodies is absolutely a feminist issue

I'm with Sir vix, I'm puzzled by the pile on. Shows how much some women hate feminism. Couldn't even just pass by with an eye roll.

We still got your backs. OP I am totally with you, in case that's not clear. Normalisation of porn and abuse of women. Disgraceful.

I'm not sure if anyone has said this and I can't read the whole thread as I'm just dashing out to a meeting but you know that passion fruit isn't called that because of sexual passion, don't you OP? It's to do with the Passion of Christ so, erm a bit different

Etymology here on the wiki page

pennydrew yes, so many folk taking time out of their busy day to tell me how great and fun porny stuff is and how I really need to get out more/relax/avert my eyes/ignore/take the tin foil hat off/get a life/. It's bracing. The orange negroni one was just odd. :)

hellojim ifonlyus FluffyMcCloud SirVixofVixHall thanks.

What's more worrying right now is the fact I now fancy Sex on The Beach and it's only just gone half 9 in the morning

If my best beloved am I had a private beach somewhere sunny and a large groundsheet...

Most of the 'sexy' cocktail names are compatible with being 'positive sex positive' - suggestive of activities pleasurable to consenting adults. Some are mildly amusing puns (the screwdriver variations or fuzzy duck).

'Porn star' cocktail isn't. It's glamorising degradation. Pro 'negative sex'.

I bet M&S would sell more of them if they called them Passion Fruit Martini. (Or maybe 'passionate martini'?).

I haven't read the full thread, but this is fairly gross to me. And unnecessary if Tesco just replaces "porn star" with "passionfruit" - which to me sounds yummier and more informative.
I'm crap at names, but "porn star" (real cocktail name or not, which is not an excuse,) puts me in the mind of "Prostitute-gin" or "Rape-ina colada".
Just another tasteless normalisation of the sexual commodification of women's bodies, and rape culture.

If this offended trans people it would be off the shelves yesterday.

So true Charlie.

SirVixofVixHall thank you, I remember those peanut cards too. They tell you to know your place.

pennydrew yes, thank you.

Charliethefeminist yes, a pile on can be very intimidating so I appreciate the supportive posts. Ffs we all know this stuff, it's daft to pretend that porn is nothing to do with us and something with porn in the name is just a bit of fun for everyone.

BitOutOfPractice interesting but did you have time to read the title of the thread? This is nothing to do with etymology the phrase 'porn star' is the issue.

I actually think a lot of those cocktail names that started out in the early 80s were essentially “women, know your place”. I remember the sniggers and comments if a woman asked the barman for a Slow Comfortable Screw or whatever. Ugggh.

Scrumplestiltskin 'Just another tasteless normalisation of the sexual commodification of women's bodies, and rape culture.' Yes, you've put it far better than I did. It is tasteless (saying that is pearl-clutching apparently) but what is more serious is using rape culture to sell a product, largely to women.
Thanks for your cocktail suggestions, I did say I wondered when they'd get around to marketing some to fellas. Prison Rapetini anyone? Also why is 'Porn Star' fun to drink and say, Cuntini or Rapetini isn't? Is it because when you tack 'star' onto porn it sounds like a choice? Who doesn't want to be a star? But of course most women who work in porn are not stars, and they weren't choosing porn over, say, being a doctor or solicitor.

SirVixofVixHall 100%. A trope in porn (and bdsm though saying that is probably inflammatory) is to get someone to ask/beg for degredation.

Maybe Rape-Humiliation-and Choking-Tini wouldn’t fit on the tin.

...and I dislike the coy way we pretend it is just a drink and you're not requesting a sex act. Sure, load of blokes go to the bar to order a Blow Job which after all is just a drink with a candle in it or whatever.

I may have to rethink my current work and go for inventing names for drinks instead, it's entertaining.

Yup, pornstar is such a pointless word. The only star of porn that anyone can name is Ron Jeremy.

Yeah they were out of Cum on my Face.

Wowza

M&S don’t half make it tricky for you to write an email of complaint.

If anyone manages to find an actual email address for a generic complaints desk at M&S you’ll get my thanks and a home baked lasagna.

Gosh, you're right re RJ. He was the only sort of crossover. I think he was in music videos in the 80s?
Sometimes I recognise names when I see them but I don't remember any off the top of my head. Anyway they're often Amber Waves and similar.

Or Double Anal on the rocks.

PaulHollywoodsSexGut yes and the live chat wasn't working yesterday.

SirVixofVixHall I prefer a Double Anal with a twist thanks. With a Pearl Necklace chaser.

Not so quick to call them Anal Prolapse or Gang Rape or Post Traumatic Stress Disorder on the Rocks.

Charliethefeminist nope, only winky fun names.

SirVixofVixHall actually someone commented yesterday that saying those names made her feel like she was being groped and she got shouted down for being ridiculous and shamed for trivialising sexual assault, as though the two things have nothing in common.