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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Where to even start

61 replies

MrsEldritch · 22/10/2018 18:51

Appeared in my timeline, a friend is trans, but not medically transitioning-and sort of only part time living as a woman.
We have not discussed this issue-they Have no idea on my standpoint at the moment.

Where to even start
OP posts:
hackmum · 22/10/2018 18:54

So, to clarify, he thinks that it is impossible to assault a woman in a women's toilet, but it is very easy to assault a trans person in a men's toilet? How does that work?

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 22/10/2018 18:57

What an utter wanker.

MsMcWoodle · 22/10/2018 19:00

Just tell him to google 'pervert in women's toilet'. Or send him this.
Why the fuck won't men just accept the word NO?

Where to even start
ProfessoressWoland · 22/10/2018 19:02

Fuck me, if he thinks that all trans are dainty waifs with a feminine build who "pass", he doesn't have the first idea. I'd start there.

Bonions · 22/10/2018 19:03

Why do we have men’s and women’s loos in the first place then?

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 22/10/2018 19:05

Are you planning to respond or just let it pass you by? Guess it depends on many factors.

My initial response is that if loos are as safe as all that then why can't men who identify as women use the gents?

As he says, there are already laws against assault. Why should men in dresses worry when any attack can be reported to the police?

There are other things I might say, but that's where I'd start.

littlbrowndog · 22/10/2018 19:05

He would frighten the heck outta me if I went loos and he was there
I would leave the loos straight away
That is good enough reason

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 22/10/2018 19:06

I hate these self righteous men who congratulate themselves on how inclusive they are unlike those nasty bigoted women.

McTufty · 22/10/2018 19:08

Also that’s just bathrooms. Is it “settled and obvious” that genitals don’t matter in a rape crisis centre where women go having had a penis used as a weapon of sexual violence against them?

Freespeecher · 22/10/2018 19:10

Bonions
Yes! Hit him with Chesterton's Gate.

littlbrowndog · 22/10/2018 19:14

Yea United Nations say barrier to education for girls and women’s education is lack of single sex toilets
It is one of times when are very vulnerable

GulagsMyArse · 22/10/2018 19:15

another man telling women how wrong we are.

Irrational fear, thanks mate, your misogyny is showing mate. Might be related to whats in between your legs, not your dress.

ProfessoressWoland · 22/10/2018 19:16

He got one thing right. "I have it super easy." Kind of disqualifies you from this particular discussion, O cis man.

Getoffthetableplease · 22/10/2018 19:17

Just wow. A random man in a dress, completely missing the point. Ugh. I think Prawn has some good starters.

Noqont · 22/10/2018 19:18

It's not for him to choose on behalf of women. Bet he's never been sexually harassed or assaulted. Unlike most women. What would he know? Tosser.

Getoffthetableplease · 22/10/2018 19:19

your misogyny is showing mate. Might be related to whats in between your legs, not your dress.

Grin exactly this!

StrangeLookingParasite · 22/10/2018 19:20

"I care more about people and their safety than what's between their legs".

Well isn't that special.

I, too, do not even know where to start.

Fwend · 22/10/2018 19:20

Ask him if he thinks his Mum should be able to ask for a female nurse to do her smear test.

Then tell him she'd be committing a hate crime if she would prefer not to have someone with a penis stick their fingers inside her, if the new laws pass.

SlowlyShrinking · 22/10/2018 19:21

Ask him what THE FUCK he thinks it’s got to do with him whether men are welcome in women’s toilets? Ask him why he doesn’t volunteer to help acceptance for tw into men’s facilities. Ask him why he wants to exclude his gnc brothers?
Ask him if his kind opening up of women’s spaces also extends to prisons and refuges??

littlbrowndog · 22/10/2018 19:23

And anyroads how does some wokey beardie dude get to tell us what to be afraid of. The cheeky fucker

hypnotizzz · 22/10/2018 19:24

girl raped in cubicle
This happened in a supermarket near me, a few years ago. It was busy but the toilets are down a corridor (as they are in many shopping centres) and the tills are noisy so even if she screamed it's possible no-one would have noticed. But it's the sort of place I should feel safe letting my young children go.

FekkoTheLawyer · 22/10/2018 19:27
  1. he's scary looking
  2. he sounds like an entitled knob
  3. why does he want to go into a ladies loo (or does he wonder why a man who looks like this want to
  4. so he's cool with men in ladies loos. What about womens hospital wards, changing rooms, swim sessions, prisons, rape centres, refuges... Is there a line for him or is it all just a bloody big boy joke?
  5. 'stop being such a prick'
  6. 'If you kick us in the crotch do we not cry like a baby?' (With apologies to W Shakespeare)
DoYouLikeBasghetti · 22/10/2018 19:30
Shock
LangCleg · 22/10/2018 19:32

Meet the new MRA: same as the old MRA.

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