The Guardian REVERSE FERRET

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amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/17/the-guardian-view-on-the-gender-recognition-act-where-rights-collide
The Guardian view on the Gender Recognition Act: where rights collide
Editorial

So after all this time, the Guardian say this.

They have had months to calm the debate.

They wait until now. Then pull a reverse ferret
ferret

I genuinely don't know whether to laugh or cry.

About bloody time! Although the twitter comments bawling about transphobia just highlight the problem - #no debate, no discussion, do as I say yadda yadda yadda is still the modus operandi for the shouty ones.

Having said that, I am genuinely pleased to see a nuanced article from the home of OJ that recognises that there is a legitimate issue for women. Not that I will yet be renewing my subscription - too much damage been done by them.

Thank goodness it's past LOJ's bed time. Poor little pickle's head will explode.

What will LOJ make of this?

If the tide has turned it will be all of us, all us ordinary women who got angry, who spoke up, who demanded open debate and organized when we couldn't get it, who did this. We made the world listen.

If the tide has turned we outperformed Canute. If...

The guardian gave been swinging back and forth in this for a while now

I only got this far and my jaw was on the floor!

The Guardian rejects the idea that one of these positions is the right one – and the other wrong

Definitely think we are about to be stitched up.

Cant shake the feeling.

'This ferret is reversing, beep beeep, this ferret is reversing'.

Too late Guardian. Go fuck yourself.

Red I feel like we will wake up on friday morning and find that self-ID has passed in a secret sitting by MPs overnight. (I know that's not how it works, before anyone feels the need to point it out!!)

LOJ appears to be covering Saudi stuff at the mo, praps being kept well away.

OMG. runs outside to see if the pigs are flying past the blue moon

Bloody Hell! Have just had an argument with my usually very sane DH on this topic and he has pissed me right off. Am tempted to send him the link to the Guardian editorial now...

I'm loving 'reverse ferret'

Reverse ferret is a truly wonderful term isn't it.

I feel morally bound to shout it lots, as people remember the term better than 'that time the Guardian switched its editorial position'.

Gender Recognition Reverse Ferret is so much more memorable and we wouldn't want to forget the occasion too quickly or two easily now would we?

Definitely think we are about to be stitched up.

I think they know the self I’d will be passed and so can now start ‘repairing’ their reputation amongst the people who have left them. They really don’t give a shit, but are going to arse lick now in order to win back their readers. They can fuck off! We can see you guardian and it’s too late.

Honestly didn't see this coming now, although I thought it would happen sooner or later.
I'm already seeing people who are shouting about t**fs and claiming that WPUK and Fair Play are hate groups, saying well that yes, of course there are some genuine concerns. I don't think they'll ever admit that they're the ones who are bullying women for saying the exact same thing they're saying now though.
It does feel like progress though.

Reverse ferret has made my night.

But yes, I fear we may well still be going to be stitched up. Just with a thin veneer of "we listened to both sides, albeit at the eleventh hour and not very hard while clapping the ear-trumpet to our deaf ear..."

Article by Susie Green, obsequious review of Butterfly in the last 10 days. I’m not giving them ANYTHING until I see some proper balance. What that editorial needed was a strong line or paragraph admitting they haven’t taken editorial balance on in it the past. When I see some of their obviously GC writers be allowed to write articles, with comments opened, I’ll view them as a fair place.

Betty that just looks bizarre. WTF is going on? Its like an episode of Dr Who.

Perhaps the most important phrase in the whole piece is this:

Gender identity does not cancel out sex.

They get it.

Reverse Ferret would make a wonderful MN username...

It's a well written and balanced piece. I like it.
It does remind me of the Lib Dem who was going to listen to both sides though (and took a lot of flack for it) and has just massively back peddled and blamed the mean women for not being nice enough. This whole thing makes me very cautious of anyone who seems to be being reasonable.

And I'm the child of two journalists, with a brother who did a journalism degree (never went into it) and I grew up in newsrooms on local papers... and I have never heard of that wonderful term until now.

I had a deprived childhood, and a deprived adulthood not being able to use that term.

I'm not convinced. Too little, way too late.

Exactly, they hung us out to dry while we were suffering constant abuse, intimidation and threats!! They are a bunch of complete hypocrites acting as if ordinary women were right-wing, social terrorists. I'm not suddenly giving them a halo.

Their ferrett is a little wanker.