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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Times Readers' Poll on women-only spaces

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WillNotBeSilenced · 14/10/2018 01:30

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/readers-poll-should-everyone-who-identifies-as-female-have-access-to-women-only-spaces-c36hw0qgk

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Poxoff · 14/10/2018 22:43

No I voted using the sharetoken link above. Still 98%. Is it worth getting this thread deleted to reduce risk of hijack by activists?

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 14/10/2018 22:44

Yes or let it drop and stop bumping.

PerverseConverse · 14/10/2018 22:55

Voted.

Times Readers' Poll on women-only spaces
Cuntysnark · 15/10/2018 17:29

I can’t register. Site doesn’t like my email apparently :-/ what is the outcome now please?

KatVonGulag · 15/10/2018 17:49

Bump

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CarpetDiem · 15/10/2018 18:06

Nearly 5000 votes and its 97%

Times Readers' Poll on women-only spaces
Juells · 15/10/2018 18:13

You can sign up without having to subscribe. You need to provide a real email account, that's all.

R0wantrees · 15/10/2018 20:02

5 274 VOTES 97% no

LemonJello · 15/10/2018 20:10

Joss is sooooo rattled at the moment. As well they should be.

Numbers ain’t going your way Joss. Women don’t consent to sharing with you. You can pretend it’s because we’re old, right wing and out of touch all you want if it makes you feel better 😂

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 15/10/2018 20:10

It'll get spammed now.

KataraJean · 15/10/2018 20:16

I am a subscriber - I can see the article but not how to vote? Am I missing something?

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 15/10/2018 20:22

I think some people are starting to realise it's not a "small group of radicals", it's thousands of members of the public from all walks of life, all races and all sexualities.

GraceTheDisgrace · 15/10/2018 20:29

My free articles refreshed and I've just voted, as of now we're at 5,373 votes, 97% NO.

PartridgeInAFairTree · 15/10/2018 20:41

Been meaning to sign up for two free articles per week for ages. This pushed me to finally get it done. 97% No

FermatsTheorem · 15/10/2018 21:02

I'm a subscriber and I just voted. Still on 97% no.

stiffstink · 15/10/2018 21:11

5684 now - 97% no.

That's about 300 votes in 40 mins.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 15/10/2018 21:26

Voted.

Thank you, Times!

GiantKitten · 15/10/2018 22:14

6101
98%
👍🏻

adulthumanandtired · 15/10/2018 22:41

6210

98%

ToeToToe · 15/10/2018 22:46

Glad we've got the screenshots - at the moment it's pretty much genuine Times subscribers.

If the TRA hijack it, it'll be so obvious now.

tenorladybeaker · 16/10/2018 15:00

7164 votes now, still 98%.

Alienspaceship · 16/10/2018 15:10

Voted just now. 98% no 👍

Turph · 16/10/2018 22:16

I clicked on the Twitter link, that Joss person is a perfect example of a selfie passing but the person doesn't. Joss has a series of videos out, I clicked on one and watched a few seconds to establish it was the same person.
A selfie shrunk into a tiny avatar passes and people respond to that. Whereas in real life the person is never going to pass.
Also the trans bathroom thing - we've already established some people get confused and think a trans woman is a woman who's transitioning to be male and a trans man is a man transitioning to be female. Obviously that's not everyone but there will be enough people confused about the designations to influence the vote.
The wording on the Times poll is clearer. The issue isn't if some people are happy with some trans women (for argument's sake I'll still to TW) in women's spaces especially if those people know or are envisaging HSTS TW who are either stealth or "fabulous".
For any lurkers - it has to be ALL women happy with ALL trans women, and as the latter contains occasional cross dressers and a high proportion of AGP fetishists (NATWALT etc etc) and people who will never ever pass as female and go unnoticed, the former will never be happy with the change. The former don't have any responsibility to the latter. The status quo is effective. Women will have to be forced into accepting this because it won't happen naturally.
Mind you, I don't suppose the TRAs care much about whether women feel coerced into playing along with their public fetishes (NATWALT etc) so long as we move over and give them room.

Whisky2014 · 17/10/2018 12:43

It doesnt really matter about Josh does it?
Even if it came out as 100% No Josh would brand everyone right wing. Well so what?! It still means 100% don't want it. And so far 97% don't. Speaks volumes to me :)

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