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Delete My Gender Please

153 replies

Barracker · 12/10/2018 16:25

Dear @MNHQ. I do not have any gender, because as I'm sure you know, I don't believe in gender as a characteristic that people 'have', only as a stereotypical role people of a sex are expected to perform.

Therefore, as you currently hold some 'gender' data on me that states:
Barracker, Gender = Female
AND as that data is both false and I do not consent for you to hold it, please delete that specific piece of data from my personal information at your earliest convenience.

Thank you.

(If you would care to capture data on my biological sex, I would be delighted to offer you that data. Do let me know as soon as you create a field to capture my sex data. This should also assist you if you intend to monitor or analyse data on the Equality Act 2010 regarding the protected characteristic sex.)

Warmest regards

Barracker x

#DeleteMyGender

OP posts:
nethun1 · 12/10/2018 17:57

Cis woman 🙄 the world has gone bonkers

picklemepopcorn · 12/10/2018 18:04

Notvery, you said "Trans women are at birth identified and given the identity of a man, when in reality they are women"

Can you explain in what way a boy baby can in reality be a woman?

Also, when you say they change the social part of their life to match the reality that they are a woman, why does a real woman involve a wig, dress, and heels? The reality is that I am a woman in flats, jeans and a jumper.

PutYourShirtOnMartin · 12/10/2018 18:06

I have changed my name to
FEMALE HUMAN BEING
SEX NOT GENDER

I noticed they ask for your children's gender too... 😳🤔

Threewheeler1 · 12/10/2018 18:10

Gender is the main event in the 'Hamlyn All Colour Book of Feelz', the newest course text by which those special woke Doctors like Harrop are training.
For the slow readers, it's got pictures and everything.
Once you've read it and answered 3 simple questions, Kettering Catering College will issue you with your shiny 'Doctor of Medicine' certificate for the small sum of £180.

I mean, if we're simplifying getting a GC then why don't we simplify that, lengthy and uneccessary medical training too!
Who needs to understand or even believe in actual biology when it's no more than a feeling? Grin

stealthsquirrelnutkin · 12/10/2018 18:15

I'd also like to be registered as female, and have the choice to state my gender separately.

According to everything I have read on the subject my gender is actually non-binary, so being forced to choose between the options of male and female is very hurtful.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 12/10/2018 18:25

According to everything I have read on the subject my gender is actually non-binary,

Do you know...thats thing here

So go back a few years and you had male and female sex/gender. Everyone knew what it meant

Then some people say that there are more than two genders...well ok that seems fair enough if you believe gender is a thing obviously

And so the world and its mother says its one of a number of genders, that gender is a proper thing and there are many genders including people without a gender and its a real fact and people should be respectful of it....fair enough

BUT APPARENTLY IM NOT ALLOWED TO IDENTIFY AS NOT HAVING A GENDER...OH NO. I HAVE TO HAVE A GENDER EVEN IF I DONT HAVE ONE AND IT HAS TO BE ALLOCATED TO ME BY SOME RANDOM ON MUMSNET

its fucking rude...

VickyEadie · 12/10/2018 18:31

Surely no one could be that stupid?

Now, I know you know that's not the case.

@MNHQ - I don't want a gender 'assigned' to me, thanks.

Ereshkigal · 12/10/2018 18:38

#deletemygender

Great hashtag if we can get others to post on it!

Belonger · 12/10/2018 18:58

I'd also like my gender to be removed but am happy for you to record my sex.

My local authority have agreed, when I pointed it out, that they have been using the terms interchangeably and therefore incorrectly and are going to change it.

I hope Mumsnet will have the good grace to do the same.

Surely they're not squeamish about using the word sex, because that's the only reason I can think of.

Gender is the social role attached to a sex class and I totally dont identify with either of the commonly available ones.

Ithangyou

Belonger · 12/10/2018 19:09

Oh yes, #deletemygender.

Don't want to be left out

ErrolTheDragon · 12/10/2018 19:16

I've not RTFT but #deletemygender too, please.

I've asked about this before but don't remember ever having a response.

I assume back in the day when it was all green fields 'gender' was used as a euphemism for 'sex' ....FFS this is a parenting site, MNs usp ultimately depends on sex! Parents shouldn't need a euphemism.

PurpleCrowbar · 12/10/2018 19:17

Yep, I'd like to be degendered also! Thanks 😊

Belonger · 12/10/2018 19:21

I have this image of orgasations across the land getting so much forms back that said 'yes please' next to sex, that they decided to put gender instead.

Not realising IT MEANS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

Sigh.

Belonger · 12/10/2018 19:22

Ooh, sorry, 'so many' not 'so much' .

welshbookworm · 12/10/2018 19:22

"Trans women are adult human females."

No, they aren't. Dictionary definition of 'female: of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes.

R0wantrees · 12/10/2018 19:23

Telegraph 2014
'Facebook's 71 gender options come to UK users'

(extract)
"Facebook worked with UK groups Press for Change and Gendered Intelligence to add 21 new options to ensure the list best reflected the ways UK users may choose to describe themselves.

"Gender identities are complex and for many people, describing themselves as just a man or just a woman has always been inadequate," said Professor Stephen Whittle, vice-president at Press for Change. The European Court of Human Rights has upheld the right to develop our gender identity, as key to our personal autonomy.

"By challenging the gender binary, Facebook will finally allow thousands of people to describe themselves as they are now and it will allow future generation of kids to become truly comfortable in their own skins."

Ensuring users feel comfortable being their true selves while using the network is a priority, said Simon Milner, Policy Director, UK Middle East & Africa at Facebook.

"An important part of this is the expression of gender especially when it extends beyond the definitions of just ‘male’ or ‘female.’ Today’s announcement provides significantly more options for people in the UK," he added." (continues)

www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/facebook/10930654/Facebooks-71-gender-options-come-to-UK-users.html

^Are there still only 71? I would have thought there would be more by now"

Belonger · 12/10/2018 19:25

Hands up who has already spent their life being a woman AND challenging the gender binary every day of their life?

Me.

HandsOffMyRights · 12/10/2018 19:31

I'd also like my gender to be removed but am happy for you to record my sex.

I managed to get my LA to drop the gender nonsense under the protected characteristics.

Velella · 12/10/2018 19:34

Delete my gender too please.
My sex is female

SonEtLumiere · 12/10/2018 19:37

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ErrolTheDragon · 12/10/2018 19:47

Trans women are at birth identified and given the identity of a man, when in reality they are women.

Only if you change the meaning of at least one of 'women', 'man' or 'reality' in that sentence.

stillathing · 12/10/2018 19:48

Delete my gender too please.

AnchorMum · 12/10/2018 19:49

Filling out the GRA consultation certainly brings everything into very close focus. I have no gender. I am a woman, of the sex that is female. That's what I want you to record in your data please MNHQ.

reallyanotherone · 12/10/2018 20:01

I don't know what the fuck i am any more.

I was assigned female at birth as i have female sex organs. Yet I have never “felt” female, and enjoy many “male” activities such as sport and computers. I don’t enjoy make up, dresses, high heels, manicures, or “girly chats”.

So I don’t identify as female. However although I present as male in that i wear trousers and flat shoes Hmm I am not male either.

Maybe I’m a man born in a womans body that rejects being a man? A cross dressing male? Who the fuck knows.

i am me. Don’t categorise me.

HawkeyeInConfusion · 12/10/2018 20:03

#deletemygender

Please delete my gender too MNHQ. And the gender of my DC.

Thanks.

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