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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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Delete My Gender Please

153 replies

Barracker · 12/10/2018 16:25

Dear @MNHQ. I do not have any gender, because as I'm sure you know, I don't believe in gender as a characteristic that people 'have', only as a stereotypical role people of a sex are expected to perform.

Therefore, as you currently hold some 'gender' data on me that states:
Barracker, Gender = Female
AND as that data is both false and I do not consent for you to hold it, please delete that specific piece of data from my personal information at your earliest convenience.

Thank you.

(If you would care to capture data on my biological sex, I would be delighted to offer you that data. Do let me know as soon as you create a field to capture my sex data. This should also assist you if you intend to monitor or analyse data on the Equality Act 2010 regarding the protected characteristic sex.)

Warmest regards

Barracker x

#DeleteMyGender

OP posts:
YoureOnOurTerfNow · 12/10/2018 17:20

Please delete my gender and replace it with my sex. Female.

R0wantrees · 12/10/2018 17:20

This would be a wonderful way for Mumsnet to lead the way in responsible, respectful & meaningful data collection.

One box for sex, male/female options.

One open text box for gender identity
this may be filled in as appropriate for the individual (FB has upwards of 70 gender identities so it would be unwise to incude a drop-down box as more genders are likely to emerge over time) or left blank for those without a gender identity.

FloralBunting · 12/10/2018 17:20

Given the posit that transwomen were always in reality women, shall we now try 'define reality'?

TinyRick · 12/10/2018 17:22

It's not that hard

From the pics I have seen under the #girlcock tag, I beg to differ.

ADastardlyThing · 12/10/2018 17:23

"Trans women are adult human females. And anyone who isn't trans is objectively cis"

Women are adult human females. I'm not trans I'm a woman. Definitely not cis anything because I don't have a gender identity, I just am a woman

Barracker · 12/10/2018 17:24

Here's the government confirming that they don't ascribe the same meaning to sex and gender.

Creating a legal fiction doesn't change that.
This quote demonstrates perfectly that the government are legalising a lie, and acknowledging that it IS a lie.

Delete My Gender Please
OP posts:
TimeLady · 12/10/2018 17:24

I'd like the MN gender category to be renamed as sex too, please. For clarity.

R0wantrees · 12/10/2018 17:25

Just to add that I too would like to delete the 'gender' information and would be happy to provide accurate data.

Redshoeblueshoe · 12/10/2018 17:25

Floral you beat me to it

IKeepFlouncing · 12/10/2018 17:25

Woman an adult human female

IKeepFlouncing · 12/10/2018 17:27

All haters gonna hate so I’m gana just keep singing

Woman : noun I am adult human female

Fearandsurprise · 12/10/2018 17:33

Notveryblissful Are you able to answer the question I asked at 17:15 on this thread?

FloralBunting · 12/10/2018 17:34

I'm kind of tickled by the suggestion that I go back to primary school from someone whose grasp of biology and general communication is hovering around the level of "You are because I say you are, nur nur nur nur nur."

Anyway, as diverting as it is to bat around nonsense for half an hour, I've got things to do, like picking an exceptionally interesting verruca, so laters, gadfly!

Barracker · 12/10/2018 17:34

Oh, and that little clause in the EA2010 that confirms that the actual biological female SEX are legally allowed to exclude a person from a service even if they have benefited from the legal fiction, even if their fictional legal 'sex' has been changed to female?

That's confirmation that even if the law enshrined a lie, reality - the reality of ACTUAL BIOLOGICAL SEX supercedes that legal lie. In other words, a transwoman may claim to be the same legal sex as me, but the law STILL differentiates between me and him* demonstrating that reality still trumps a big fat legal lie. And how could the law possibly ascertain the difference between him and me if we are both 'legally female'?

  1. I have no gender, but I am biologically female.
  2. He claims a gender, and remains biologically male.
  • (MNHQ this is a fictional hypothetical TW who does not object to male pronouns so please let that stand)
OP posts:
BiologyIsReal · 12/10/2018 17:38

This has to be a wind up. Surely no one could be that stupid?

senua · 12/10/2018 17:38

Add me to the list please MNHQ. I have a sex, not a gender.

I have reported this thread, Barracker, so MNHQ can't pretend that they didn't notice it.

Hyppolyta · 12/10/2018 17:42

Is MNHQ really assigning genders to us? Hmm

I have no gender and request any information suggesting I do be immediatly deleted.

HuckfromScandal · 12/10/2018 17:45

Me too please. I don’t subscribe to the notion I have a gender.
#deletemygender

Bonions · 12/10/2018 17:47

Sex and not gender here too please!

Threewheeler1 · 12/10/2018 17:52

And me thanks Grin
I'm an adult human female, neither trans nor 'c**' .
Woman will do perfectly, just as it always has.

EndeavourVoyage · 12/10/2018 17:52

I actually have no idea what you are all talking about and I honestly think some of you, including OP have a bit too much time on your handsHmm

AdultHumanCat · 12/10/2018 17:53

Me also, please delete my gender MNHQ as I do not have one. Happy to provide my sex (female) if you need to collect that data.

senua · 12/10/2018 17:53

Is MNHQ really assigning genders to us?

Go to 'my mumsnet' (top right)
Click on 'settings'
Go to the 'about you' tab
It asks your gender, not your sex.

NibblyPig · 12/10/2018 17:54

Notvery the point of the GRA was to circumvent the prohibition of same sex marriage. Literally the only reason we're in this state now is because some MPs and Lords were so outrageously homophobic that they decided to create the legal lie that males can become females. They would rather allow us to pretend humans can change sex than allow people to marry within their own sex.

Hyppolyta · 12/10/2018 17:56

Endeavour would you say that to a transperson, or one who complained about being misgendered?