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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

FPFW full page ad in the Metro!

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LemonJello · 10/10/2018 12:31

mobile.twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1049949350347071489

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TheLastMermaid · 10/10/2018 14:06

Perfect.

Respect to whoever drafted that text.

teenytinypontypine · 10/10/2018 14:09

I have emailed them, so pleased they have run the ad.

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 10/10/2018 14:14

Totally agree with you @deepwatersolo, and twitter isn’t even on the radar for a lot of people. So much of twitter really is a big-fish-small-pond scenario, shame for them as I’m pretty sure there’s been lots of statistics showing that mothers and women’s influence voting/buying habits etc of people around them more than any other group of people. I mean we all how much MN is hated and targeted - we influence and we’re hated for it.

tobee · 10/10/2018 14:14

I know how handmaidens and TRA think. I've seen it enough times. Same stuff trotted out. But (many of) the comments in that link are still pretty fucking shocking.

hellandhairnets · 10/10/2018 14:20

*Expect tomorrow's Metro to come with a full apology, stating they didn't know the advert was booked by a "transphobic hate group"

  • that seems to be the pattern.*

Yes. This is exactly what will happen tomorrow, I expect.

Any ideas for countering the inevitable?

Redshoeblueshoe · 10/10/2018 14:29

I have written as well.
I expect they are drowning in a deluge of hate mail

birdbandit · 10/10/2018 14:34

If there is a public apology tomorrow, it'll just peak more people.

the more crazy and nasty shout, more people will hear them.

PositiveVibez · 10/10/2018 14:35

Fabulous 👏👏👏👏

CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/10/2018 14:38

Ah yes!

Dear Reader,

We are deeply sorry for insinuating that women have penises... for pointing out that women being raped in prison is NOT an acceptable consequence of any change in any law... for accepting payment to run an advert that states basic biology.

Shame on us!

CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/10/2018 14:39

Ooh! Even trying mys best to do the double think, I didn't get that right did I Grin

Insinuating women DO NOT have penises...

Even my sarcasm is GC!!

Iused2BanOptimist · 10/10/2018 14:41

Thank you ThatWouldBe for supplying the contact to Metro. I will be in touch later.

I #ChooseReality

TwistedStitch · 10/10/2018 14:44

I picked up my Metro in Norwich today, there are piles of them free on all the city buses and they all get picked up. Well done on spreading the message!

Ereshkigal · 10/10/2018 14:49

Apparently they've taken over the hashtag.

Who cares? If genuinely curious people visit it TRA tweets don't tend to come across well, shall we say Smile

MistOnTheWater · 10/10/2018 14:55

Had picked up a copy of the Metro when I got off the bus (not in London) and hadn't even looked at it. So thanks for the info. Although there is also an article about the programme Butterfly in there as well (which I haven't read). Are The Metro covering their arses?

over50andfab · 10/10/2018 15:02

Wow! All I can say is that all those of you who are gloating over seeing this advertisement should be feeling thoroughly ashamed of yourselves. Do you not think trans people have enough to deal with in life? And to see this, today of all days? (World Mental Health Day if you didn’t know).

You must realize how man hating and trans hating you come across. Yes, it is true MN has a reputation for its extreme form of feminism – but I would like to make clear that the things written here are by NO means the views of all of us.

You are showing a total lack of empathy, a large amount of ignorance and being utterly nasty.

Oh – and if you are interested, I have a uterus and I have kids, and I also support anyone to be what they want to be.

AssassinatedBeauty · 10/10/2018 15:08

I find it interesting that you cast asking people to consider the needs of women and girls as "man hating" and "trans hating", @over50andfab. This advert is asking people what they think and drawing their attention to the government consultation. I find it interesting that this is objectionable to you.

Lottapianos · 10/10/2018 15:09

'Oh – and if you are interested, I have a uterus '

So, are you a woman then? Just checking......

LemonJello · 10/10/2018 15:11

could it be that women opining on matters that affect them is now to be allowed?

Not yet I see.

All I can say is that all those of you who are gloating over seeing this advertisement should be feeling thoroughly ashamed of yourselves.

I don’t know who you think you’re talking to here but you are seriously out of order. Women standing up for their right not to have smear tests from males is something to be ashamed of? What is wrong with you?

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MadamBatty · 10/10/2018 15:11

Over 50 what’s hateful about asking people to use their critical thinking skills? Genuinely interested in your perspective?

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 10/10/2018 15:12

Oh – and if you are interested, I have a uterus and I have kids, and I also support anyone to be what they want to be.

Is this like that game where each person adds something? If so, I have a uterus, kids and two umbrellas.

Would you support me if I wanted to be black? Or Queen Victoria? Or a woolley mammoth?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 10/10/2018 15:13

welcome to FWR over50andfab

a couple of teeny points....:

it is true MN has a reputation for its extreme form of feminism feminism here generally centres women - help me out - how is that extreme?

I also support anyone to be what they want to be
why? what if they're legally blind and want to fly the 747 you're going on holiday in?

There are some things people can't do or be by virtue of the body they were born into. The trick is not to encourage them to want want the can't have (that is cruel), the trick is to encourage them to accept what they do have.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/10/2018 15:13

You must realize how man hating and trans hating you come across No. But we do get a bit tired of explaining that we don't hate any individual man or trans woman.

We do, however, object most strenuously to TRA bollocks. It s the activism that we are discussing!

If you have a good read round you'll see that in VERY VERY MANY posts.

And you may be interested to know that many of the posters here are trans women!

LemonJello · 10/10/2018 15:14

Yeah interested to know what having a uterus has to do with anything if you don’t think that’s relevant to being a woman?

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/10/2018 15:14

OOh! Can I jpin in?

I have a uterus, no kids, two umbrellas and 3 sewing machines

ADastardlyThing · 10/10/2018 15:15

An apology would be ace. Even more people going "erm......why is a paper apologising for running an advert saying men can't become women and having men in women's prisons isn't a great idea?". Keep em peaking!

Over50 I'm sure trans identified people have their struggles. We all do. Unfortunately it's not our problem if biology is upsetting to them.