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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

FPFW full page ad in the Metro!

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LemonJello · 10/10/2018 12:31

mobile.twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1049949350347071489

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SophoclesTheFox · 12/10/2018 08:18

that's both interesting and depressing, arranfan.

AnyFucker · 12/10/2018 08:37

Impressed with the Metro and FPFW.

More, please Smile

Elephantinacravat · 12/10/2018 09:00

Adrian is going to be fuming at that headline this morning in the Metro. Especially as he wrote a big long twitter thread about KW last night.

Lol.

birdbandit · 12/10/2018 09:25

Empress, could you be lovely and screen shot or link to the Perry interview. I like his no nonsense honesty. Thank you.

ChattyLion · 12/10/2018 09:44

Shock... I didn’t know the full extent of the violent sexual crimes of transwoman and rapist-of-women and child abuser Karen White ..( who the Metro reports as ‘previously known as Stephen Wood and still legally a man’ so as far as I know I am not writing anything that goes against MN talk guidelines by quoting the ‘dead-naming’ that is in Metro reporting... ?)

metro.co.uk/2018/10/12/prison-service-apologises-for-sending-transgender-rapist-to-womens-prison-8030300/

James Kirkup’s blog in the Spectator and the Metro reporting says that since Karen White’s attacks the victims of his crimes have been suicidal, one of the women that Karen White violently raped was pregnant, . (I don’t know if that rape was as Stephen Wood or not) I mean how is this ever someone safe to be near women?

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/the-cautionary-tale-of-karen-white/

Both of these articles are worth reading.

There isn’t any way to tell who is a risk to women when men prisoners demand to be housed in with women- frankly the demand itself should ring a lot of alarm bells to my mind- so the government needs to take the consistent approach of NOT housing male prisoners in with women, regardless of how those male prisoners identify and whether or not they have obtained female legal paperwork via a GRC.

It’s patently unsafe for women and children who are housed in prisons male prisoners to be placed into their accommodation with them. This is just common sense. Why the fuck do they think these men want to be put in a women’s prison in the first place?? Foxes don’t get to be housed in the hens’ house, however much they might argue for their own hurty feelz.

As child abuser and rapist-of-women and transwoman Karen White has shown, there must be suitable accommodation provided in the male prison estate for all male prisoners, whether they self identify as women or not, have a GRC or not, or demand to go to into the women’s accommodation or not.

Keep your penis out of the Ladies’.

Link to the FPFW page for anyone who wants to find out more about responding to the current government consultation on widening the scope of legal self-identification of sex. (Ie the principle of: ‘I can be woman legally, just because I have said I am a woman.’) this government consultation closes next week.

fairplayforwomen.com

R0wantrees · 12/10/2018 10:35

Do you think it is worth us writing to Sam Gyimah as the Minister but also to Universities UK www.universitiesuk.ac.uk/about/Pages/about-us.aspx to point out that some good vice chancellors have already spoken up about freedom of speech when their academics have been attacked for simply having opinions...

I think writing to the relevent departments rather than focussing on Women & Equalities is absolutely appropriate.

This is likely how many policies have been implemened without proper scrutiny.

The issues do not juest affect people who are transgender, they affect the wider population and responsibility is with each of the specific departments.

For example, the Department for Health need to explain whether their much valued same-sex accomodation policy is fit for purpose when transgender policies allow for self id and NHS systems do not seem able to seperate sex of patients from their declared gender identity.

Issues in schools are the responsibility of the Dept. of Education.

and yes, the issues within universities are for the minister to be made aware of.

If the information does not come into the appropriate departments, how can they address the issues?

R0wantrees · 12/10/2018 10:38

Nadhim Zahawi MP is Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Children and Families.
www.gov.uk/government/ministers/parliamentary-under-secretary-of-state-children-and-young-families

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 12/10/2018 12:27

Empress, could you be lovely and screen shot or link to the Perry interview. I like his no nonsense honesty. Thank you.

It's over a couple of pages, birdbandit, so I can't post photos because I'm nearly up to my limit for today. If you go to the Metro website you should be able to find it though.

PersonWithAVulva · 12/10/2018 12:40

Impressed with metros response to TRA bullying. I know this is just guesswork, but I can't see that metro would put Karen White on the front page without the attempted bullying, yes they would have printed it, but not front page

I think the floodgates are about to burst open with journalism on this topic..its not going to be pretty and there will be huge backlash against transsexual people I think, which feminists have warned about for a while now. All because of the behaviour/demands of people who claim to want the best for them...when they are just MRAs under a different name. Sad really.

PersonWithAVulva · 12/10/2018 12:41

It only takes one large company to stand up to the TRA 'guilt trip' nonsense, and others will follow suit too. I think TRAs main attack mode..might be getting more ineffective by the day

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 12/10/2018 13:18

Hooray for the Metro! I like the fact that they're not backing down.

I keep waiting for Adrian Harrop to spontaneously combust from rage.

TwistedStitch · 12/10/2018 13:22

This thread is funny about the outrage about the cost of the ad.

mobile.twitter.com/helenstaniland/status/1050626082540412929

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 12/10/2018 13:40

That Twitter thread is great.

VintageFur · 12/10/2018 14:03

It's a shame the metro is free... Because every time an organisation stands up to this idiocy I donate/take out a subscription!

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 12/10/2018 14:06

Email them and thank them instead.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 12/10/2018 14:09

Every time a t*rf reads Metro God kills a kitten.

True fact.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 12/10/2018 14:11

More accurate than most of the other facts

arranfan · 12/10/2018 14:11

God kills a kitten.

And Putin is given more oil and gold that is used to destabilise the West. And secretly race everyone to Mars and set up a colony.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 12/10/2018 14:12

I did... and got this really nice, of somewhat put upon reply: "Thank you. I am gale SOMEONE liked it :)"

I suspect the night editor had had enough by then! I had to send it to the complaints email, I did say they should have a Thank You email address too!

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 12/10/2018 14:13

Do you have an email address, Curious? I am more than happy to send a thank you note.

gendercritter · 12/10/2018 14:14

That Twitter thread Grin

Charley50 · 12/10/2018 14:28

BBC have Karen White tucked away in local news, no link from the front page.
Shitty Guardian have the story hidden in society under Transgender. Again not linked from the front page or under news at all.
Gonna email the Metro my love..
obviously loving FPFW too.

AngryFatherNow · 12/10/2018 14:33

Good ad. Sorry to have missed it. I just sent FPFW some money so they can place another one.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 12/10/2018 14:46

Disrespectfull I used this one

[email protected]

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 12/10/2018 14:51

Thanks! I've emailed them using a different address but will email them with that address, too.