Holy crap I've approached friends about GRA and now I'm crapping myself a bit!

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So I’ve been following the trans discussions both here and in the press for a while now and I’m scared of how women are losing their voice and could be losing rights very soon. What is odd is that in RL no one I know has mentioned it. Ever. Not once.

So after watching so many brave women really putting their heads above the parapet tonight I’ve bit the bullet and sent a text to my close friends giving them the link to the GRA consultation and some reasons why I think it’s of interest to them to at least look at. This topic is something none of them have mentioned even knowing of.

Although I feel proud of myself for doing it I’m slightly shitting myself about the “friendship “ fallout and worried they think I’m bigot! Is this the adrenaline talking??!! Please talk me down

Chill

Melanin I know your right!

I have just done the same! I'm having a large glass of wine! I have actually had three really positive responses and they are going to fill out the consultation. Yay!

It is scary. I sent an email about it to a friend who is in guiding, it didn't go too well..... (Sorry that is probably not what you want to hear! There have been times it has gone well too)

Thanks both, that's good to here (and great news on getting others to complete!). I'm hoping if nothing else it makes them aware. School run tomorrow could be interesting...!

Or even "good to hear".

Sorry Melamin wrong username

I was forced "out" today, for upsetting reasons I can't go into, but I've had to talk to both a colleague and my parents. None of them had any idea. My mum just about flipped out when I mentioned refuges and went home with a FPFW leaflet; I'm hoping she'll do the consultation. Everyone has their tipping point, I guess.

I feel rattled, but in a way I'm glad...the ninja life was really starting to get to me.

Nobody in my personal life has fallen out with me over this, they laugh at the politicians or get cross, nobody believes men can become women.

It's another Brexit isn't it.

I know what you mean. I've thought about speaking to a couple of the school run mums I know quite well but bottled it each time. So you can feel proud that you actually did it.

Well done! Its a scary step to take, but most people dont actually know we can take part in the consultation. If the only people who do the consultation are TRAs we’re in a expletive hard situation.

Spoke to a couple of friends (separately) about this yesterday and though they started off saying they thought men could be women and vice versa, it didn’t take long for them to see that there would be circumstances where it would be necessary to apply boundaries. Trans women in women’s prisons and the complete obfuscation of records and statistics of crimes seemed to be the tipping point for both.

Thank you all for replying. I'm starting to picture lots of pockets of what we've all done happening everywhere. Small waves can be a big one.

silent rattled describes the feeling exactly. I'm sorry you've had an upsetting experience .

I’ve done exactly the same this week! Over text and just casually in conversation (as you do!) One friend seemed relieved that I had mentioned it and began to unload all of her frustrations about it too. Most of the others have either not responded or responded with confusion- I really don’t think it’s on many ppl’s radar yet?

Fuck I'm telling everyone!
They either go-"well yeah obvs that's insane, but it wont happen."
or they go and say "why isn't the news covering this??"
It will be fine OP. Either they will have you burned as a witch or they will fill in the consultation...

I spoke to my older sister about it recently. She was very incredulous as firstly she said, if it was such a big deal as I was claiming, why hadn’t it been reported in The Guardian or the BBC?

Secondly she did not realise that over 80% of ‘transwomen’ had not had surgery. She assumed that they had. I’ve sent her a few links but I honestly felt like some mad conspiracy theorist as the incidents we all know about sound so far fetched that pp literally can’t believe they’re true!

Tonight I sent a male friend the pic of Posie in her woman: adult human female tee shirt in front of the poster that got banned and he was so confused and couldn’t understand what the issue was!

I'm telling everyone too. No iffy reactions so far - and I've told a lot of people

I recognise feeling like a mad conspiracy theorist. Especially since the BBC and other previously trusted news outlets are not reporting this.

However the Girl Guides and Pips Bunce are usually all I need. People are pretty appalled at the Guides already - that seems widely known. Then I show them Philip Bunce and then show people the ludicrous outfit and the gaslighting with winning women’s awards and bam - they’re done.

The only ones who didn’t get it are my sex positive friends who work, tangentially, in the industry. They are heavily invested in expressing every sexual idea you’ve ever had - they haven’t noticed that it’s men’s sexual ideas only - and they don’t have children so are not alert to safeguarding.

Everyone I know say “transwomen are not a threat to cis women”

Tbh I do agree with that in relation to the few actual “transwomen” I’ve known in real life. But they just don’t believe me that with self ID any man can say he’s a woman at any time.
Tbh I’m one of those who don’t mind “real” transwomen in some female spaces but I’ve no idea how one would police real transwomen vs fake ones. It’s all too hard

I have said to a few people. Inuding one friend who told me she thinks TWAW but of course they shouldn't compete in women's sports

I might print out the FPFW guidance and give it to people in work and send them the consultation link... I'm almost at the "no fucks given" stage. Go on, sack me for saying women don't have penises.

I've spoken about this to many of my friends, not in a big 'OMG' kind of way, just naturally amongst general conversation. All of the women bar 2 agreed or offered their own independent thoughts on how women are being harmed/ignored/marginalised. Of the 2 who were less GC, one has a transman friend and was very protective of him, but as we talked she could see the problems too.
My SD is on the fence and another friend of mine is a youth worker and can only see the positives of inclusion and refuses the discuss it any further.

Currently on Twitter

I like many other women have gone to the no fucks given fairly recently. For me, it was Twitter suspending me for saying that AC was in fact male. And the next day my Twitter account was hacked. I can’t prove it was AC that did it but ( they have form...)