Stephanie Hayden takes Graham Linehan to court for doxxing

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

Their statement is here:

twitter.com/flyinglawyer73/status/1046792462067519489?s=19

It's important for many reasons that we are able to name the sex of people carrying out crimes.

I agree Duckwit. That fact is fundamental to the whole situation.

"A woman attacked a transgender man during a “prejudiced” alcohol-fuelled confrontation in Aberdeen.

Louise Mcritchie’s victim was biologically female at the time, and “identified as male”.

The 26-year-old appeared from custody at Aberdeen Sheriff Court yesterday, and admitted carrying out the assault in the early hours of Sunday, April 28, following a night out drinking with three others – including the victim.

Fiscal depute Lynzi Souter said: “The accused repeatedly called the complainer ‘a girl’, and he advised that he just needed to get away from the situation.

“It was at this point the accused struck the complainer, causing him to the fall to the ground, and thereafter kicked him to the head and body.”"

Gender critical activism?

(No of course not, but according to the logic of some on here it absolutely should be seen that way)

"My point if you actually read my posts was that it is ridiculous to associate Solanas' attack on Warhol with feminism, just as it is ridiculous to associate Evie Amati's violence (who was also psychologically unwell) with trans activism."

I don't think it's ridiculous to at the very least associate Solana's attack with feminism. Many prominent feminists and MRAs of the time linked the SCUM manifesto to the attack. I'm just more amused that after decades we have an example of one woman who is held up as a feminist boogey man when she was so insane that she never got her story straight about why she did it. Oh and the suffragettes of course, with their nasty acid attacks on beautiful cricket greens.

I was simply arguing that in the Jeka and Evie's case the perpetrator's trans identities really played a prominent role in the crimes they committed. One was enraged at the prospect of being found out and losing a place in women's sports. The other was enraged at the perceived rejection by a lesbian and their inability to 'pass' as a woman. And this rage and aggression is, of course, exactly what GC feminists are concerned about.

"The other was enraged at the perceived rejection by a lesbian and their inability to 'pass' as a woman."

So if a mentally unwell woman gets rejected on a dating site over the way she looks and goes out and attacks someone in a violent rage she immediately becomes a feminist activist? What utter nonsense, I can't believe you're arguing this with a straight face.

jj1968: can you elaborate on how the Saudi Arabian police in this case are 'gender critical activists'? I just read an article about this case, and it doesn't say what the police killers believed. Do you have more information that the press aren't privy to? Were they perhaps wearing 'adult human female' t shirts, or something?

jj The Mcritchie case sounds like an unplanned scuffle between drinking buddies. There's no evidence the attacker wanted to bring about any social change - unlike Jeska, who wanted males to be able to compete against females, and who worked towards that goal over a long period.

Lots of gender critical activism goes on in Saudi Arabia.

Gender criticism is by definition feminist. The Saudi morality police are not feminist. They imprison and brutalise women for going out without a male escort or not wearing a veil. You're getting desperate.

"So if a mentally unwell woman gets rejected on a dating site over the way she looks and goes out and attacks someone in a violent rage she immediately becomes a feminist activist? What utter nonsense, I can't believe you're arguing this with a straight face."

A better analogy would be a woman who attacks 3 strangers with an axe because she was rejected on a dating site for being a feminist, and then in a plea of mitigation said that she was upset at always being rejected because of her feminism and that is why she went out to kill innocent people.

Lots of gender critical activism goes on in Saudi Arabia.

LOL Activism is not tolerated in Saudi Arabia, along with many other things like drinking, sex outside of marriage and homosexuality and wearing 'revealing clothing'.

@NotTerfNorCis

jj The Mcritchie case sounds like an unplanned scuffle between drinking buddies. There's no evidence the attacker wanted to bring about any social change - unlike Jeska, who wanted males to be able to compete against females, and who worked towards that goal over a long period.

Lots of gender critical activism goes on in Saudi Arabia.

Gender criticism is by definition feminist. The Saudi morality police are not feminist. They imprison and brutalise women for going out without a male escort or not wearing a veil. You're getting desperate.

Funny I've had people on here berate me for saying the gender critical movement is a feminist one.

@WeeBisom

"So if a mentally unwell woman gets rejected on a dating site over the way she looks and goes out and attacks someone in a violent rage she immediately becomes a feminist activist? What utter nonsense, I can't believe you're arguing this with a straight face."

A better analogy would be a woman who attacks 3 strangers with an axe because she was rejected on a dating site for being a feminist, and then in a plea of mitigation said that she was upset at always being rejected because of her feminism and that is why she went out to kill innocent people.

Was she rejected for being a trans activist or for being trans?

Funny I've had people on here berate me for saying the gender critical movement is a feminist one.

Who, other TRAs? They're the only people who think gender critical feminism isn't feminism.

Was she rejected for being a trans activist or for being trans?

At the risk of being told I'm not following properly again, would be interested in the answer msyelf
As there's a difference, not always evident on here though as usually get lumped in together as one

jj1968: oh, I never made the trans activism point. That was someone else. I merely pointed out that there have been high profile cases where someone's trans identity is highly pertinent as a cause of violence. And hence this is why GC feminists are worried about trans women in women's spaces.

Oh yes, lots gender-critical activism in that hotbed of feminism....Saudi Arabia. Where those same morality police forced a bunch of schoolgirls to burn to death rather than escape a burning building unveiled.

My cat has more legal protection from abuse than a woman in Saudi Arabia.

The mental gymnastics, victim blaming and dismissal you employ to paint your side as pure as the driven snow is disgusting jj1968

Not particularly convincing, either.

@WeeBisom

jj1968: can you elaborate on how the Saudi Arabian police in this case are 'gender critical activists'? I just read an article about this case, and it doesn't say what the police killers believed. Do you have more information that the press aren't privy to? Were they perhaps wearing 'adult human female' t shirts, or something?

yes i'd be interested to find out too... did they all have I heart JKR stickers on their gun barrels?

This involved an argument over someone taking photos of people without their consent and someone responded with violence - utterly unacceptable in my view, but not terrorism

The perpetrator had previously vowed that day on Facebook to go to speakers corner and "fuck up some TERFs". Just FYI, in case you didn't know, because I'm sure you would have mentioned it, given its relevance.

Gender criticism is by definition feminist. The Saudi morality police are not feminist. They imprison and brutalise women for going out without a male escort or not wearing a veil. You're getting desperate.

Understatement.

did they all have I heart JKR stickers on their gun barrels?

Oh Gawd
This is sooo disigenous, dog whistly, whatever bollox
don't get me wrong, I like JKR books
Massive Harry Potter fan and don't intend to stop reading anytime soon
If you have a I heart JKR sticker now though, do you mean you like Harry Potter or you agree with her trans views?
Usually means you agree with her trans views but can say "Wot U on about, I only saying I like Hogwarts and Gryffindor!"

^Oh please. Not Myra Hindley again. In 60 years, you can only come up with Myra Hindley!!
^^
^Sixty. Years.

SIXTY.

Genuinely laughing out loud here.

Don't forget the Feminist Women Who Threatened Olivia Records in the 70s, always needs to be dragged out too, on every TRA blog.

Clearly not much has happened recently except nasty women who say no.

Before she "came out" for want of a better phrase meant nothing in the "GR" view.
Which is why I think means something now