Stephanie Hayden takes Graham Linehan to court for doxxing

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

Their statement is here:

twitter.com/flyinglawyer73/status/1046792462067519489?s=19

I would strongly advise against reposting that material here. You should be deleted for that post.

Also, not actually a lawyer.

it is great that jj keeps this one bumped. The farmers are finding it entertaining eh?. I must admit that it sparks my curiosity to discover the fruits of their labour. It must be good.

Less than 5 minutes.
Impressive really.
Mumsnet mods should give twitter and pornhub some tips.

What has happened to the feminist boards? Are they under attack yet again? MRAs sure don't like women having their own spaces do they?

Must keep the whataboutery going! Only need to use deflection to get 241 more posts then this thread will be locked and this unfortunate sunlight can dim and then fade away. Keep digging!

I don't get the "under attack" posts.

1 - If a post breaks talk guidelines, it breaks guidelines. Nothing to do with whether you have a flange or a knob who would even know just going on posts on here.

2 - if a post is transphobic, gets taken down.

3 - Know 2 is problematic if you don't think transphobia is even a thing

• 4 Personal attacks are always against talk guidelines whichever board you're on

I just don't really understand the appeal of haunting womens forums to disrupt them. Some people must have really pathetic lives i guess.

I just don't really understand the appeal of haunting womens forums to disrupt them

Who's "haunting" though?
Who "shouldn't" be here?

Women with differing views?
If not, who?

It's pretty clear reading the threads who is here to cause trouble. However it does keep them bumped i suppose and trending.

@SonEtLumiere

She was involved in a dispute which involved her trans status but she was not acting as an activist.

We’ll have to agree to disagree on that. Jeska was demonstrating to sports administrators the punishment they should expect if they insist transwomen are held to the same standards as Females. It was intended to send a message to UK Athletics as an organisation, and more widely to administrators. Therefore for me undoubtedly political/activist in nature.

So if a benefit claimant attacks a Jobcentre worker do they become a claimant activist? Or if a person of colour punches someone they think is being racist are they automatically an anti-racist activist? Or is it only trans people this kind of analysis applies to?

I love how in the entire history of the feminist movement we have ONE act of violence by Valerie Solanas, and it's always brought up as an example of how evil feminists are. Despite the fact that...er...Solanas was deemed unfit to stand trial and insane by reason of having schizophrenia and she wasn't at all coherent about her motivations for shooting Warhol. It's not exactly like Elliot Roger or the Ecole Polytechnique massacre, is it?

Also the reason we bring up trans murderers or attempted murderers is because their motives are important, not their trans status. Myra Hindley was a woman, but she didn't kill children because she was a woman or because she was a feminist (I don't even think she was a feminist.) But take, for example, the attempted axe murderer Evie Amati. Evie admitted to trying to murder three strangers because they had earlier been rejected on a dating app by a woman. Evie then spiralled into a fit of rage because they perceived they had been rejected for being trans.

Lauren Jeska is in a women's prison, so they have finally got the validation they craved.

She was involved in a dispute which involved her trans status but she was not acting as an activist.

OK, sorry if I'm missing a bit of context here (probably am tbf)
Does this mean you can never lose your temper, or shout, as a trans woman?
As I've see the words trans activist and trans woman used interchangerbaly on here
Just because you're one doesn't mean you're automatically the other.
Even being a biological woman (use that word seeing as the c word is likely to get me deleted on here) I know if you have an alternate trans view it means you're a man, don't care about women etc
So sounds about right if so
Have to behave properly as a lady

Or is it only trans people this kind of analysis applies to?

Kind of what I've been trying to say

Jeska was violent because they believed they had a right to compete against women.

It was violence in support of a political cause. One of the victims was left with 'severed nerves leaving him with restricted movement, difficulty eating, and limited vision in both eyes.' In other contexts political violence is called terrorism.

@Butterer

I lived with someone in my old co-op who helped try prevent the Dale Farm eviction. She said that every tenant resisting was an activist impacted by racism against gypsy and traveller communities. .

One of the guys that lived on site had been arrested for pissing on a policeman from a scaffold while calling him a blk b*d. But he didn't know any better, apparently, so it was fine. I was a bit slack jawed at that one.

Off topic: ive spoken to two people recently who told me there were issues regarding modern slavery around the Dale farm site - obviously nobody I used to know ever mentioned that. Is that right?

Whenever I've mentioned a correlation with racism, and transphobia, been told to stop. Why is it being allowed now

@WeeBisom

I love how in the entire history of the feminist movement we have ONE act of violence by Valerie Solanas, and it's always brought up as an example of how evil feminists are. Despite the fact that...er...Solanas was deemed unfit to stand trial and insane by reason of having schizophrenia and she wasn't at all coherent about her motivations for shooting Warhol. It's not exactly like Elliot Roger or the Ecole Polytechnique massacre, is it?

Also the reason we bring up trans murderers or attempted murderers is because their motives are important, not their trans status. Myra Hindley was a woman, but she didn't kill children because she was a woman or because she was a feminist (I don't even think she was a feminist.) But take, for example, the attempted axe murderer Evie Amati. Evie admitted to trying to murder three strangers because they had earlier been rejected on a dating app by a woman. Evie then spiralled into a fit of rage because they perceived they had been rejected for being trans.

My point if you actually read my posts was that it is ridiculous to associate Solanas' attack on Warhol with feminism, just as it is ridiculous to associate Evie Amati's violence (who was also psychologically unwell) with trans activism.

There's been plenty of historical feminist violence from the Suffragettes onward. Red Zora carried out 45 arson and bombing attacks between 1970 and 200. There were other similar groups across Europe including Angry Wimmin who carried out arson attacks and I believe some of the former members are now prominent GC activists. The Gorgons, a lesbian separatist biker chapter, turned up with guns at an event to try and intimidate a trans women from speaking in the 70s.

@NotTerfNorCis

Jeska was violent because they believed they had a right to compete against women.

It was violence in support of a political cause. One of the victims was left with 'severed nerves leaving him with restricted movement, difficulty eating, and limited vision in both eyes.' In other contexts political violence is called terrorism.

Was it fuck, it was violence in support of a personal cause, carried out by a very unwell woman. It's ridiculous to claim it was activism.

Was it fuck, it was violence in support of a personal cause, carried out by a very unwell woman

Wrong on two counts there.

Jeska was certainly unwell though.

Was it fuck, it was violence in support of a personal cause, carried out by a very unwell woman.

It wasn't carried out by a woman, it was carried out by a man. Its important to me to say that.