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Stephanie Hayden takes Graham Linehan to court for doxxing

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 01/10/2018 17:19

Their statement is here:

twitter.com/flyinglawyer73/status/1046792462067519489?s=19

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Datun · 16/11/2020 20:58

"You don't know all the threats. They go to a different school."

🤣🤣🤣

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 16/11/2020 21:01

Im much more likely to believe a ‘faults on all sides, dont condone violence’ argument

Than ‘it’s completely one sided, never ever happens’

Butterer · 16/11/2020 21:04

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SophocIestheFox · 16/11/2020 21:06

”You don't know all the threats. They go to a different school."

Pfffftttttt 🤣

jj1968 · 16/11/2020 21:10

Millwall (everyone hates us but we don't care) were intimidated enough to withdraw their venue as a meeting place.

Another lie. Millwall pulled out because their supporters group requested it after the nature of the event became clear. And despite them being goaded by Venice Allen with being 'scared of men in dresses' the truth is that the club said they didn't take stand either way but didn't want to be drawn into a controversial dispute. Quite understandable for a club that has worked very hard to rid themselves of their previous reputation.

Prior to the meeting at The House of Commons, frontline staff said they had never seen anything like it.

I find that somewhat hard to belive as well given the nature of some of the protests that have taken place both outside and inside the House of Commons.

Escapeplanning · 16/11/2020 21:13

Thanks for the pointer to the fruit platter. I am shocked I tell you. They are horrible.

No fans of mumsnet either.

SonEtLumiere · 16/11/2020 21:13

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Quaagars · 16/11/2020 21:14

And I don't really see a huge moral difference between some kid posting a die in a fire gif and gender critical activists accusing people of being groomers, fetishists and all kinds of other things with no evidence. Both sides are as bad as each other in my opinion, even if their styles are different

There's some truth in that if I'm reading correctly?
Yes, DIAGF is vile. Nobody's said any different on here.
How is it not vile though to try and paint all trans people as groomers, fetishists etc?
Not sure what rufus's comment was alluding to apart from the usual what does "nothing to see here, you're wrong, silly, that's not what we meant?" that usually does?

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 16/11/2020 21:17

Not sure what rufus's comment was alluding to apart from the usual what does "nothing to see here, you're wrong, silly, that's not what we meant?" that usually does

Didnt say that in the slightest

jj1968 · 16/11/2020 21:17

@Butterer

You probably won't recognize any if the behaviour i described jj, for reasons similar to those suggested by tinsel.

If you don't know them, they were probably just a different working group/sect in The Struggle.

They usually ended up on the cover of the guardian, or as spokesmen against spycops though, so you might know them by sight Smile

Btw, I forgot to ask you again if there are any single sex communities for female survivor of abuse (you mentioned on a different thread that you lived in one that included men) - i think that could be a helpful resource for me. Ta.

I lived in a high support mixed sex Centrepoint hostel many years ago for 16-25 year olds. I don't even know if it still exists. I'm not aware of any long term single sex communities for survivors, there's still a few woman only housing co-ops about though.

I'm not really up for commenting on situations or groups I know nothing about. The only person I know of involved in Spycops is Helen Steel though I don't know her personally.

Quaagars · 16/11/2020 21:22

No, you didn't but it's always implied, it's disingenous to say otherwise
Maybe it is innocent, the amount of head messing that goes on posting with opposite view on here is off the scale so will give benefit of doubt.
From personal experience you've done it before though, several times, randomly popped up with "don't be silly" type posts, so if this wasn't then fair enough.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 16/11/2020 21:25

No, you didn't but it's always implied, it's disingenous to say otherwise

I didnt say anything of the sort

Other posters may do this

In my post i did not

It is not disingenuous for me to say that i didnt imply anything

If i think something is silly i will say so, randomly or not

Butterer · 16/11/2020 21:26

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jj1968 · 16/11/2020 21:29

@SonEtLumiere

The only incidence of actual physical violence I'm aware of in the history of trans rights is what happened at Speakers Corner.

And the attempted murder of Ralph Knibbs by Laura Jeska, or does that not count for you?

What about the Trans women who have demanded they be transferred to women’s prisons and then carried out sexual assaults there. That strikes me as using ‘activism’ to enable offending, how about you?

What about Myra Hindley eh eh. It is as ridiculous to blame every crime ever committed by one of the tens of millions of trans women in the world on trans activists as it is to blame GC activists for the crime of every woman, or even every feminist.
Datun · 16/11/2020 21:34

@jj1968

Millwall (everyone hates us but we don't care) were intimidated enough to withdraw their venue as a meeting place.

Another lie. Millwall pulled out because their supporters group requested it after the nature of the event became clear. And despite them being goaded by Venice Allen with being 'scared of men in dresses' the truth is that the club said they didn't take stand either way but didn't want to be drawn into a controversial dispute. Quite understandable for a club that has worked very hard to rid themselves of their previous reputation.

Prior to the meeting at The House of Commons, frontline staff said they had never seen anything like it.

I find that somewhat hard to belive as well given the nature of some of the protests that have taken place both outside and inside the House of Commons.

Haha!

Officials had agreed to let leftie feminists hold a rally, called Transgenderism and the War on Women.

But the club pulled the plug after publicity over the event at The Den sparked a backlash from transgender activists

Organiser Venice Allan told The Sun on Sunday: “Millwall were initially quite supportive and said that it wasn’t for them to make a political choice about who hires their rooms

But when we made it public, Millwall said they’d never seen anything like it. They were inundated with calls.

The talk was set to cover the impact of possible law changes allowing transgender people to identify as women, and how feminist concerns are shut down by threats and claims of transphobia.

The 'nature of the event', JJ, was to talk about the collective response to a government consultation, where the government had specifically asked women to do just that.

Still, perhaps they should've handed out kiwi fruits at half-time, instead of orange slices, and got them all done for terrorism.

Datun · 16/11/2020 21:36

Oh please. Not Myra Hindley again. In 60 years, you can only come up with Myra Hindley!!

Sixty. Years.

SIXTY.

Genuinely laughing out loud here.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 16/11/2020 21:37

I certainly dont fucking say ‘we’

I think too many of the regulars would distance themselves from most of my blethering 😀

MissAHannigan · 16/11/2020 21:38

Was Myra Hindley a GC feminist?

Everyday's a school day...

Escapeplanning · 16/11/2020 21:39

What about Myra Hindley eh eh. It is as ridiculous to blame every crime ever committed by one of the tens of millions of trans women in the world on trans activists as it is to blame GC activists for the crime of every woman, or even every feminist.

Well I didn't see that switch coming!

Anyhoo, it's been interesting to see the legal developments. Thanks for bumping.

Datun · 16/11/2020 21:42

@RufustheSniggeringReindeer

I certainly dont fucking say ‘we’

I think too many of the regulars would distance themselves from most of my blethering 😀

Not me, Rufus, I love your blethering.
SonEtLumiere · 16/11/2020 21:42

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Quaagars · 16/11/2020 21:44

At the risk of sounding like I'm "siding" with you (whatever the fuck that means) that's what I don't get
I mean we don't go judging every biological woman on their actions, do we?
I mean, whether it be Myra Hindley, Beverly Allitt, Vanessa George or whoever.....
why should that be the case when it comes to trans women?
The only difference seems to be that as biological women, we can excuse it on the fact that there was a man behind us "making us do what we did we didn't really mean it we were coerced"

jj1968 · 16/11/2020 21:44

@MissAHannigan

Was Myra Hindley a GC feminist?

Everyday's a school day...

No, just as Karen White was not a trans activist.
RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 16/11/2020 21:45

Not me, Rufus, I love your blethering

Thank you 😀

Datun · 16/11/2020 21:47

Karen White demanded access to a female prison by relying on transgender ideology. If they werent a transactivist, what were they?