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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman, 41, pretended to be a boy to groom a girl

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TurfClub · 01/10/2018 13:50

Jacinta Brooks is a serial paedophile

metro.co.uk/2018/10/01/trans-woman-pretended-to-be-a-boy-to-groom-a-girl-7994533/

"Prosecutor Berenice Mulvanny said that police found screenshots of the conversation with the girl along with hundreds of child abuse pictures. Brooks gave no comment during a police interview but admitted she ‘couldn’t argue’ about being attracted to children. Miss Mulvanny said: ‘Brooks knew the girl was underage but sent her sexual messages. The defendant originally pretended to be a 14-year-old boy but soon admitted her real age.’

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CurbsideProphet · 01/10/2018 22:06

I don't think I can say what I really think in case the badthink police come after me.

VickyEadie · 01/10/2018 22:08

CurbsideProphet We've got a free pass from the mods to call this man a man because he's a paedophile.

IdahoJones · 01/10/2018 22:20

I don't click on many AIBU threads, and I assumed (wrongly) it would be about Lidl cheesy peas or M&S slacks or some shite like that, with frothing after three posts about how fortunate people are to have any peas and slacks whatsoever at all.

If it had been an accurately descriptive title, it could have been different I guess.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 01/10/2018 22:41

I can't believe that the reporter described him as a trans woman. He's not. He's a man. I really feel sick when I think about the implications of this.

arranfan · 01/10/2018 22:44

I can't believe that the reporter...trans woman.

Originally, the article was about a woman, it was changed to "trans woman" later, so it's progress of a sort. Tho' it won't stop this being added to female crime statistics etc.

Popchyk · 01/10/2018 22:45

Daily Mail link

Rehash of The Metro article. But refers to "transgender sex offender".

enrichedatthegulags · 02/10/2018 00:59

These can't be recorded as crimes of women.

I'm hoping the tide is turning in general, but in the meantime, I HOPE someone is recording crimes based on sex (actual biological sex)? Please tell me someone somewhere is doing this! If not what can we do to argue for this? It's a reasonable request, right?

I know it's just one small thing in sea of issues, but it may well justify the (obviously extremely valid) safeguarding concerns.

It's so scary. I feel sick these crimes are being tallied up as crimes of women. Stats from crimes like this will be used to argue "well women commit sexual abuse too". Except they were crimes of the penis-owning type of "women".

DuckingGoodPJs · 02/10/2018 01:02

threadmarking - hope the thread is still here when I have time to come back to it

MawkishTwaddle · 02/10/2018 02:27

This point might have been made before, so apologies in advance.

If follow the argument that 'TWAW just because that's the way they feel' through to its logical conclusion, we come to the terrifying proposition that this disgusting man hasn't done anything wrong.

He could argue that because he feels like a 14 year old boy, he is 14 year old boy, and therefore to punish him for trying to start a relationship with a person his own age is to deny him his human rights.

If we allow anyone to say they're anything, based on their feelings, well, literally anything goes.

Someone with letters after their name, a dodgy agenda and enough support could argue, hey, there's such a thing as arrested development, childhood trauma can cause someone to be stuck at a certain age, this guy thinks he's 14, he's a victim not a predator, and shouldn't go to jail. Bingo, a dangerous man walks free.

If we allow dangerous men to set the agenda, there are no checks and balances. No lines in the sand. No way of saying, 'No, you fucker.' Give bastards an inch and they'll take a fucking mile.

Let's face it, that gross specimen has far more in common with a 14 year old boy than he has with any woman in the world. For a start, he once was one. He has real knowledge of how to be one 'feels'. It's not such a leap to say, 'Oh, but it's not his fault he's attracted to kids. He is a kid trapped in a grown man's body.'

I know that sounds far-fetched. But Christ, if you told me a year ago that I'd get a wrist slap from Facebook for posting 'women have periods' I'd have laughed.

I'm not laughing now.

Destinysdaughter · 02/10/2018 04:55

MawkishTwaddle brilliant post. And yes it is absolutely terrifying.

deepwatersolo · 02/10/2018 06:51

MarkishTwaddle I fully agree. It is worth noting in this context that paedophiles regularly insist they are ‚actually children at heart‘ and can understand kids so much better than ‚normal‘ adults.
I even believe l saw an article stating that science found some truth in that claim.
I am honestly convinced that this is the next step, if self ID goes through.

Deliriumoftheendless · 02/10/2018 07:01

This is the worrying thing. Blind acceptance is an open door to abusive males.

Once you believe the idea that men actually are women it’s very easy for very shady people to get involved and claim they should be listened to and sympathised with. Even if those people are simply women haters or a danger to children.

How this is more acceptable than accepting trans people are people who cannot live with the sex they are due to psychological issues I don’t understand.

Is the stigma of mental health issues actually greater than the stigma of being a dangerous predator?

TimeLady · 02/10/2018 07:31

Quick look at the online newspapers this morning and this story seems to be missing from pretty much all of them (or very well hidden away)

I can only see it in the Metro and Southern Daily Echo

Sarahjconnor · 02/10/2018 07:38

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deepwatersolo · 02/10/2018 07:42

Yeah, Stefonknee is a trial balloon as far as I am concerned.

ChattyLion · 02/10/2018 08:13

I saw this thread popping up and thought this was going to be one of those bullshit minimising threads about ‘Women do it too..!’ And I didn’t have the energy to click on it.

Ugh. Sad These criminal men are laughing at everyone, (especially their victims) aren’t they.

Sarahjconnor · 02/10/2018 08:17

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BigChocFrenzy · 02/10/2018 08:21

It's worrying the increasing number of men who self ID as children
The TRA agenda seems tailor-made for paedophiles and driven by them.

Are TRAs just PIE with much more money and influence behind them ?

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 02/10/2018 08:22

Let's face it, that gross specimen has far more in common with a 14 year old boy than he has with any woman in the world. For a start, he once was one. He has real knowledge of how to be one 'feels'. It's not such a leap to say, 'Oh, but it's not his fault he's attracted to kids. He is a kid trapped in a grown mans body'

Yep, I thought that too. Let's be clear, he has zero knowledge of being a woman. Zero. Also, grooming and sexually abusing children is pure evil. He might feel like he's 14 but he knows he's not. One thing he's clearly never felt is empathy, at least for any females.

The use of female pronouns in this article is an insult to his victim and her mother. Ongoing abuse of them by the press.

I am honestly convinced that this is the next step, if self ID goes through.

Yes, I think that too.

BigChocFrenzy · 02/10/2018 08:23

Also horrified that official crime statistics counting male paedophiles as women
will be used to support the narrative that there are far more women paedophiles

CurbsideProphet · 02/10/2018 08:26

I showed this to my DP last night. He has peak transed. We'll both fill out the consultation this week.

VickyEadie I'm imagining a person with a pile of papers stamping "Allow" or "Badthink" etc on different comments. Probably not too far from the truth?!

R0wantrees · 02/10/2018 08:33

This is the court guidance (from Bench Book) presumably informing how men who are paedophiles/rapists such as Jacinta Brooks were treated by the court.

twitter.com/LesleySemmens/status/1046778715651407873

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Sarahjconnor · 02/10/2018 08:33

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arranfan · 02/10/2018 08:34

We'll both fill out the consultation this week.

That's so heartening CurbsideProphet.