Dr Nic FairPlay For Women on Victoria Derbyshire 10.15

[WarmWishes]

Or so I have just seen on twitter.

C'moooon Nic! We're all rooting for you!

I've seen it all over twitter these last view days, watching the people who have blocked us all. They are enraged that two sides are being heard, even when it's still weighted against feminists. For example, the VD item would, if any of those organisations had taken part, have been incredibly unbalanced. As it was, Nic balanced the film. But people are furious at not getting phone calls, as if the BBC had to make a hundred million requests and hold the item until someone said ye.

No, they don't. On Girl guiding Nic has previously been stood down by the BBC due to the refusal of AWA to engage. No more.

Thanks Piper.

But still, how many of Joe public are going to be convinced by but they identify as? Not very many I would’ve thought. People still aren’t stupid, no matter how biased the interview.

Regarding the empty chairing: I wonder if the Tara Hudson debacle influenced that decision? That really didn’t come across well, and it will have been noticed.
Also the fact that GG refused to participate in an interview on BBC television won’t have gone unnoticed either. It’s not some tinpot sky channel, it’s the BBC.
The transgender is am sand castle is falling apart and the tide is coming in. The BBC might hang about till the bitter end but it won’t last for ever. There will come a point where they ditch the bucket and spade and retreat, and maybe this morning saw the first tentative steps towards that.

Mermaid's parent wrote in April:
growinguptransgender.com/2018/04/14/girl-guides-how-to-radicalise-hate-against-trans-children-in-10-easy-steps/

"Think of others before yourself and do a good turn everyday"

They need to change this to: "A Brownie Guide learns to look after herself, because she ain't no use helping everyone else if she does not understand her own needs"

Maybe not so catchy, but I was brought up with this mentality (and was in Brownies) where children are thought to be selfish and mean and need to be civilised. It took me until having twins to deal with to realise this (thanks to TAMBA)

That’s not the Guide law.

The first Guide law is
“A Guide is honest, reliable and can be trusted”.

The Organisation’s law is clearly “Do as I say, not as I do”.

Brownie anthem: should be Greatest Love of All.
I'm sure there will be better ones!

Lucy Bannerman Times journalist:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0eba70ea-c1da-11e8-a932-84839f5183a4

"Spot the difference between @ Girlguiding guidelines on girls who self-ID, issued today, (in red); and the guidelines and statement given to me yesterday.

The story is accurate.
Good news they seem to have taken on board members’ concerns, but why not acknowledge it publicly?"

twitter.com/TimesLucy/status/1045251761227943936

When I was in Brownies briefly in the late 80s, the motto was ‘lend a hand.’ Even my seven year old self felt it was a bit lame and unfulfilling. For one of the badges we had to wash a pair of socks, and for another we had to learn to lay the table. I binned it off after a year or so because I didn’t want to do housework or sewing or gardening, I wanted to play football and make fires, and don’t even get me started on the horrible brown dress and bobble hat. I was jealous because I wanted to join the Cubs.

That GG statement on Lucy Bannerman's tweet says that girls will not be managed out if they identify as boys. So are the GG now acknowledging that they are still girls, no matter how they identify? If so, they will have to acknowledge that boys are still boys, no matter how they identify.

Yes, Lend a Hand. We promised "to serve God and the Queen, and to help other people...." I quite liked the Brownies, we were more physically active in ours than most packs (and our wartime-era Brown Owl was a force to be reckoned with) but I'm finding it hard to reconcile the drippy Guides organisation I knew in the 80s with it now being supposed to be a bastion of go-gettery and female equality. In my day it still had a very 50s feel and the role of girls being designated as "Guides" makes me cringe to this day.

Still from 1:24

Brownie Guide promise c1970 - I promise that I will do my best, to do my duty to God, to serve the Queen and help other people and keep the Brownie Guide law.

Law: A Brownie Guide thinks of others before herself and does a good turn every day.

Motto: lend a hand.

I did the laundry one which was good coz I got to use the iron at 8. Also cooking - sharp knives and electric mixer. Hostess- total pants.

GulagMilkMonitor - This kid was 7 when they started identifying as trans. The BBC has been following them. Social transitioning of young children should be done carefully, in case the child later changes their mind

How does a child of 7 say “hang on I don’t want to transition anymore” when followed for 3 years by a camera crew?

Yes this.

These activists talk about social transition as if it's nothing. As if no harm is done and the child can just revert to their old name and habits without any problems if they desist.

There aren't any balloons or cake or parties or school assemblies or fucking penguins for children who change their mind (the vast majority). Support is withdrawn because all the funding is for 'trans kids' and this child is no longer 'trans'.

Nobody knows what to say to a child who had a trans identity and now desists -it doesn't fit the narrative. Nobody's bothered writing the guidance to keep these children safe and well. The people who write the guidance wish these children would just go away permanently or at least STFU and get out of the way of the lovely sparkly story they want to sell.

We're leaving extremely vulnerable children to cope with this on their own, without support, because there is no support unless you carry on along the railroad track.

This is what's happening to ordinary children and everybody who has any sort of influence or power in this area now has a duty to speak out. It's not OK to let volunteers or front-line low paid workers take the rap.

Those children who are 'followed' by the BBC (or who are otherwise made a cause celebre) have it so much worse. How does the BBC's decision to 'follow' this child affect their wellbeing? How is this not detrimental?

The BBC must be held accountable for the effect they have had on this child's wellbeing and the effect they have had on this debate as a whole.

Safeguarding applies to everyone.

I am astonished that the BBC are so aggressively cavalier with safeguarding issues raised by women on behalf of ourselves and our children, given their history over the last couple of decades.

You'd think they'd have learned.