Butterfly - TV show

[GenderApostate]

Has anyone just seen the trailer?
Mermaids heavily featured with the line ‘I’d rather have a live Daughter than a dead son’ .

For fucking fucks sake .

A child at my DCs sixth form has just killed themselves, after transitioning. I’m horrified. I really don’t think transitioning prevents suicide

Haven't seen it, but this is how the fuckers fight dirty, by spewing this propaganda as an emotive drama where there is no requirement for balance.

For anyone who was under the impression that the 'tide turning' of rapists in women's prisons, and safeguarding being dismantled would be a signal of better times, be aware that these people are committed wholesale to this religion, and they. Will. Not. Back. Down.

Phalloplasty scars, alienated young people, dangerous safety loopholes; Nothing will convince people so invested that they are happy to sacrifice their kids for this.

Such insidious propaganda. It's relentless and utterly sinister.

I listened to bits of the Woman's Hour drama about a transgirl which was on a few weeks ago (the latest instalment - it just keeps bloody coming back.) There was one episode where they had a 'feminist' character, who had been included to have all her 'transphobic' fears rubbished. No comeback, obvs.

Not so much a drama as a thinly disguised public re-education broadcast.

Anna Friel has obviously not researched Mermaids beyond their own propaganda.

Is Anna Friel on twitter? Can she be educated?

Has it been on? I'm going to watch it, even if it makes me chew my lips off.

Anna Friel has been stuck on "first lesbian kiss" and sees this as the same sort of thing. She has daughters (a daughter anyway) so she'll get it in the end. Probably when it's too late.

This is a men's right's movement.

A child at my DCs sixth form has just killed themselves, after transitioning. I’m horrified. I really don’t think transitioning prevents suicide

for them and for everyone who loved them.

Our children are in the midst of a mental health crisis and they are being failed.

Thank you. I really feel the trans thing is a red herring and serious mental health issues are not being addressed with our teenagers, it’s absolutely tragic and a national scandal

It was just the trailer Toe. No doubt we’ll be seeing Anna Friel along with Mermaids on stuff like The One show, wish they’d send Mimmy along to push the agenda

I reckon this is going to be a sickening vanity project - a Munchhausen's by proxy parent's narcissistic account of their self-perceived heroism in a hostile world ie breaking down barriers, going beyond what others think is possible, doing it all, doing it all, because their child is special, different, in a hostile world, but Oh how she has guts, steel, determination to transform that child.

A bit like that weird article about how David and Tina Challenor met.

The trailer:

Is it just me who thinks they called it 'Butterfly' because they couldn't get away with calling it 'Mermaids'? Because it is essentially a political broadcast on behalf of the same.

www.irishmirror.ie/tv/mother-transgender-jackie-explains-moment-13356528

"Terror quickly turned to denial for Susie and her husband Tim. Over and over again, they told Jack it was fine to be a boy who liked girlie things – but that didn’t make him a girl. But Jack just kept telling them that was not who he was."

Lol, that's not what Susie Green said in her Ted talk. In her Ted talk she said her husband confiscated Jack's 'girly' toys, and Jack had to ask grandparents for 'girly' toys for Christmas to be kept secretly at their house because of shaming from Dad.

Seems to be some revisionism going on here. At 2:30 here

Not only that but the outcome of their couples counselling, where they were told to agree on a course of action, Tim insisted that it was his way or the highway, namely 'no girly toys allowed'.

I wonder if Butterfly will feature that storyline, or whether they will go down the 'supportive parents encourage brave girl cruelly misassigned gender at birth to become her new butterfly self'.

This is how the fuckers fight dirty, by spewing this propaganda as an emotive drama where there is no requirement for balance. For anyone who was under the impression that the 'tide turning' of rapists in women's prisons, and safeguarding being dismantled would be a signal of better times, be aware that these people are committed wholesale to this religion and they. Will. Not. Back. Down

Floral, agree 100 per cent. This is men taking back the tiny bit of power ceded to women over the last 100 years. They will steamroller anything in their way and not damage to children, women, transexual people, truth, political process, human rights, public services or the law will stop them.

Things I don't expect to see in the show:

The Boston Dr. boasting about controlling the child's future height with oestrogen given at age 14
The laughing at the micropenis
The beauty contest wearing a Mermaids sash
The boob job by the swimming pool in Thailand
The confiscation of 'girls' toys from a pre-schooler
The children telling ~5 year old ''Max' he could have an operation when he got older to be allowed to play with girls toys

Well, except for us. We will protect women and children. We have to stand in place of their consciences, political process and the law. But we can do it

People won't watch this, I think. Its too boring.

By boring, I mean predictable. People will feel lectured at, and turn off.

I suspect it's intended more as a sort of hagiography for Susie & co to playback approvingly at future events, to government ministers, etc.

Not as an actual piece of entertainment.

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#Butterfly #Trans Sunday October 14, 2018 on ITV at 9pm.

Maybe @samaritans should be informed too

wheredowebegin fucking exactly. That’s exactly how I feel about such parents.

Daily Mail story here:

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6249577/Real-life-true-story-family-inspired-ITVs-transgender-drama-Butterfly.html

At one point it claims Jackie had the op in the US, which is a lie.

"Thanks to her supportive parents, she was started on hormone drug treatment at 14, which meant she never underwent male puberty, her voice never deepened, and she never grew masculine proportions or features.

After gender affirmation, blockers are no longer needed, although transgender people must take cross-hormones for life."

Which is a mess of a passage. What is 'gender affirmation'?

Jackie's doctor as I understand it said:

• puberty blocker hormones at 13
• cross-sex hormones at 14

Susie/Jackie also claim this:

"And so, aged 16, Jackie Green became the youngest person in the world to undergo transgender surgery."

They are quite proud of this, but it is I think untrue, depending on your definition of 'transgender surgery'. Certainly 'top surgery' is being performed younger than 16, and in India and Thailand, I think castrations are/were commonly performed on boys of perhaps 14.

Also 'supportive parents' - Susie got divorced when Jackie was quite young.

"Susie, whose charity Mermaids supports gender diverse and transgender children, explained that similar to the Butterfly storyline, she and her husband Tim, 54, split up, but it wasn't because of Jackie."

This is not quite how she has put it in previous talks. The way she put it, Tim was having none of Jackie's cross-dressing, 'girl' toys, etc., and that was indeed what split them up.

Incidentally Jackie's actor is a 'cis' boy.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=lG-U8oFpa8o

liar
NOUN
A person who tells lies.

RealGhouls I got 3 minutes and 40 seconds into that ted talk. And I’ve figured out the problem. Her child isn’t trans. Jackies dad created everything that has now came to be. He didn’t allow any ‘girly’ toys in the house, why the fuck her mum didn’t stop him doing so is beyond me, and basically made the gender boxes rigid. A child will now be thinking, if I am a girl I can play with the toys I like. Add in an attention seeking mother and boom! Trans child. What a fucking joke and it seriously makes me angry.