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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Call for gender critical people in Cambridge, UK

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maniacmagpie · 24/09/2018 12:21

DISCLAIMER: am not a mum and am relatively young. Have lurked intermittently here and in other feminism spaces, largely interacting with other young people (student age). Due to my age, my main exposure to these issues is from the point of view of someone moving in young liberal spaces, and my call is phrased accordingly, rather than among adult women who have a more tangible experience of systematic sexism in society, medicine and life. PLEASE let me know if this not the appropriate place for this request, and I will step back.

This is a message that I have started to spread: I have not generally been a social person and so am finding it relatively difficult to get started on contacting people. If I can get in contact with other people who share my concerns in person that would be great: if not, I will do what I can.

"Hello.

I am a student at Cambridge University. I have been left-leaning my whole adult life. I have been supportive of trans rights for years. I have always believed, and continue to firmly believe, that discrimination on the basis of being trans is unacceptable; trans people should have access to the care that they need, and do not deserve to be treated as lesser people on the basis of who they are.

Despite this, I have become increasingly alarmed by the discourse surrounding trans activism. For many years I crushed my own thoughts about misogyny, my doubts about my own understanding of sexism, with the thoughts that I must not ‘get’ it as a ‘cis’ female. I believed - or rather, forced myself to believe, when I couldn’t truly believe - that trans people, and specifically trans women, completely understand what it means to be the gender they identify with.

I no longer believe this. Please, before you dismiss me as a bigot, hear me out.

I no longer believe womanhood is a mystical force that can be detached at will from the reality of the female body, I do not believe that femininity is the target of misogyny, because non-conforming women suffer still from misogyny. I do not believe that even trans men are able to escape all misogyny and their own socialisation by transitioning - they are still able to be, and indeed have been, targeted by sexual violence in a way that only male-bodied people can visit on female-bodied people - reproductive violence, that can result in pregnancy, and the associated policing of bodily autonomy that comes with that. I believe that trans women are the targets of misogyny when it is assumed they are female bodied, and homophobia and fear when they are assumed to be male. I do not believe that it is reasonable, or appropriate, to demand that natal women stop talking about reproductive violence due to this misdirected misogyny. I do not believe that this statement is transphobic.

I believe that transphobia - job discrimination, verbal abuse and violence - is unacceptable. However, I strongly disagree that certain actions that are labelled as transphobic among progressives, are transphobic at all. I believe, not only that homosexual men and women have every right to reject opposite-sexed people as sexual and romantic partners, but also that the demands circulated among many progressive forums are damaging to young people’s understanding of their sexuality. Specifically, the toxic combination of female socialisation, lack of resources for isolated girls, and pornsick fetishisation of lesbianism for the consumption of men makes lesbian youth vulnerable to manipulation and gaslighting from mainstream LGBT+ groups, illustrated by the horrific discourse about the ‘cotton ceiling’. Not wanting to sleep with someone is not violence. Inclusivity is not something that is expressed through access to your body. I do not believe that in normal conversation it is at all reasonable to demand that any person, trans or otherwise, talk about their genitals - but sexual relationships are another matter. Sexual relationships should only be engaged with by two willing and enthusiastic participants. Human sexuality is, and should be, exclusive and not a target for guilt-tripping.

I believe that specific difficulties are presented to trans people that they should have the resources to deal with and spaces to talk about. However, I also believe that specific difficulties are presented to female people on the basis of their bodies - and that discussion of these issues is not transphobia. Naming reproductive violence for what it is, campaigning for better understanding of female medical issues in the face of the huge male bias of modern medicine, and recognition of the economic and social penalties endured by female people specifically on the basis of being physically female and not due to an inner identity, is not transphobia.

Gender hurts. Gender is a system designed to trap and control female people from birth through childhood, adolescence, adulthood and old age, because of their reproductive capabilities. This system did not fall from the heavens; it was created by males, to benefit males. Women have always, and continue to, suffer under this system - our economic power restricted, our lives at the mercy of men, our bodies policed, our voices ignored - because we are female, because we are chattel, because of those who believe we are lesser. Gender is the reinforcement of sex stereotypes, that women have fought against and will continue to fight against, as long as it exists.

Many males suffer under this system - gender non-conforming males are at inordinate risk of violence, generally from other males - due to stepping out of line. Boys who show emotion are punished for it. Gender hurts - gender is not a fun hat to take on and off, gender kills boys and men for behaving the wrong way, and girls and women for both resisting and capitulating. Gender is not a fun toy to play with and to swap around. Gender is a system designed to break us down.

‘Pussy grabs back’ - women cry - because the President of the United States said ‘grab them by the pussy’. Not ‘grab them by the feminine essence’ or ‘grab them by the girl brain’ or ‘grab them by the emotional intelligence’. Grab them by the pussy. Grab this creature who exists for his consumption and pleasure, by the only thing that gives them value in his eyes. Focusing on this does not make women genital obsessed. Pointing out that this is the root of our oppression is not transmisogyny. Recognising that we are treated this way because of our bodies is not a statement that it is the most important aspect of our selves, but a declaration that we are more than our bodies - and that we must be able to name the problem in order to combat the problem. Saying ‘this pussy grabs back’ is not transphobia. Recognising the extreme sexism of powerful men is not transphobia.

I retain a deep sympathy for those who suffer with dysphoria and deal with it in the best way they can. My stance on trans identities is roughly that of a medicalist. I believe that trans people are fully deserving of respect, the same rights as every other person, and freedom from discrimination. I believe that what is being asked, by certain noisy factions of trans rights extremists, is not a call for respect but rather a call for excessive privileges at the expense largely of natal females, and a targeted bullying of lesbian females and homosexual males. I do not believe that it is transphobic to point this out.

I do not believe in brain sex, but even if I did I think it is irrelevant - if you carved open a woman to find a clearly, obviously male brain with MAN branded in big blue letters, she would still have suffered sexism based on her body. To those who believe this to be true, that they are ‘born in the wrong body’ and the only way to alleviate this is transition, I respect your autonomy and your right to live as you feel best, but must say this: sexism visited on a man in a woman’s body is no worse than sexism visited on a woman in a woman’s body. Sexism hurts ‘cis’ women as much as it hurts female-bodied people who identify otherwise. I do not believe this is a transphobic thing to say.

I want to raise awareness and spark discussion in Cambridge, both in and outside the University. I want to discuss these issues, in light of the gender self-ID consultation, the silencing of A Women’s Place UK, the violence perpetrated upon women who speak out, and the vitriol being circulated against gender critics. I invite natal women, natal men, trans women, trans men, straight, bisexual, gay, lesbian, questioning, otherwise - anyone who wants to discuss, debate or just acknowledge this topic - to contact me. My wish is to provide a space to debate and discuss these topics outside the false dichotomy of the ‘conservative right’ and the ‘progressive left’. I want to reach out to the women suffering from misogyny, men suffering from enforcement of toxic masculinity, and trans, lesbian and gay people who are being failed by conservative families on the right and by ‘queer identity’ theorists on the left who describe their reality as transphobic, who feel silenced and unable to speak out without being branded as either morally disgusting or as bigots.

Please spread this. PM me. I want to talk. I’m reaching out. I will use the tag ‘gender hurts uk’ (on tumblr, where my blog is 'yourledgerisdripping'), or privately message those of you who reach out to me.

Gender hurts."

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maniacmagpie · 11/12/2018 17:26

Hi gals! Proper update time.

Responses first:

Lefthanddown thanks very much, and another shout out to team Cambridge for doing all they do. As I said...gin-addled outpouring, and I love y'all. All joking aside - my place is not in organising (I can barely organise myself out of a paper bag) and I'm so happy to have connected with you all.

welshbookworm So many of the women I'm meeting through this movement are old enough to be my mother/grandmother/older and it's so maddening to me that women my age and younger are writing off their experiences as 'behind the times' and 'out of touch'! You women fought for our rights and this is what we say? Absurd! Honestly this is my motivation for fighting students on their own terms. We are bad at listening and, I think, see the influence and concerns of women older than ourselves to be curbs on our freedom and re-applications of shackles of being children still. We desperately need to fight this in student/youth circles from the inside.

Yeahnahyeah thank you! The support deffo helps me keep going :)

Manderleyagain Pretty much true. It does feel exactly like that. If they want to bombard my inbox with angry emails honestly I don't care at this stage. I have at least one close contact in my college who supports my right to free speech and is a true male ally (walks the walk) and although he is necessarily very politically non-partisan as someone who works a great deal with students, I am confident that he supports me as someone with considered and robust opinions and as a colleague. Thanks for being concerned, because it is definitely on my radar that they may attempt to shut me up through the university. I am confident that I can defend my motivations and views to my PhD supervisor for example (and he is the type to brook no nonsense and I'm sure he believes in biological sex). I am actually kind of still curious to see if they will escalate and almost...hope for it? So much of their power is in keeping the argument out of the public eye and calling everything transphobic, that I want to flush the more unreasonable factions out. But they seem to know this. I sort of have been annoying the more committed activists by saying - truthfully - that I support the fact they are trying to help people and telling them to set up a counter protest. In my heart of hearts I would love to see a banner that says 'acknowledging biological sex IS hate speech' opposite me. Honestly I think that would peak the rest of Cambridge.

iguanadonna my impression is that there are a few highly placed and committed hyper individualist feminist activists and similar with gender ideology activists, operating on that same model as the rest of TRA in inserting themselves and controlling the narrative from the top down. The gender critical/radical response is springing up from grassroots - mirroring the narrative that we keep seeing. If it helps at all, most people and their opinions do not reflect the noisy activists.

MIdgebabe I am also a whole ass GNC woman, previously trans-questioning, with a buzzcut and almost entirely male-coded hobbies/interests, who scares women in toilets on occasion. I am one of the people these people purport to represent too. You are right, you are so right. Yes we should be respected and not punished for being GNC. I find it absolutely hilarious that they think I am trying to keep some imaginary notion of womanhood for myself because I am one of those that doesn't want it. Trying to accommodate gender ideology made my discomfort with myself worse! They're hurting GNC people, and to be honest, I think they're making it worse for trans people too by enshrining these stereotypes in what it 'means' to be a man or a woman! I have been fighting people who literally claim to speak for GNC people and I say - what about us why are you telling us that we don't know ourselves? (because I'm a 'TERF' and a woman, I suppose...). Solidarity to you sis, this is all utter madness. I don't for a second think that your common-or-garden GNC person like you supports this. I don't break out the 'I used to think I might be trans' argument in general because I feel it is a dick move. But in my darker moments it is...tempting to point out, I really do have as much claim to call myself trans (and indeed fall under the modern trans umbrella as a 'masculine woman' anyway), and if I said the magic words 'I am trans' could I make headway that way? I guarantee that would get me a nice 'no true Scotsman' argument (despite their insistence on not gatekeeping or questioning) but, as I said, tempting nonetheless. If they don't want me picking at holes maybe...make...the holes...in the argument...a bit...smaller...

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maniacmagpie · 11/12/2018 17:45

Part two - update

LAWS was amazing, and I was a little starstruck at times. 10/10 would recommend. Very invigorating to make connections and talk to like-minded women - particularly the strong Mumsnet contingent!

The last rounds of outdoor activism I've done have been quieter - I think the students have mostly now decided I am not worth the time and are avoiding me. Facebook threads telling people to avoid me and my dangerous sign have been appearing sometimes. I've been told there have been tweets too, but I haven't seen them.

Last time was after the end of term, interactions were largely positive (still have a few people giving me grief but they haven't stopped to chat). I am very glad to hear that people are simply glad to see someone saying something. Over and over again. Random handshakes, thumbs up, smiles, people doing a flyby just to let me know they know exactly what's going on, and thanking me. I'm glad to see and hear that what I hoped for - just providing a quiet bit of support to people they haven't randomly lost the plot - is happening. I'm really glad for that.

One lady I met was active in the Women's Equality Party and has been seeing this and despairing, so was glad that some sanity is out here. A lot of the people who are worrying are doing so on behalf of their children. Men often worry about their daughters having a level playing field in sports. I've spoken to a few gay men who are seeing that same homophobic edge to the madder parts of the sexuality discourse, although not on the same scale as lesbian women.

There have been a lot of people taking pictures - some ask, some don't. Most of the people who ask follow that up by saying that they support me. Obviously I have no idea how many of the people who don't ask are taking the picture to show there is a dangerous transphobe on King's Parade and how many are supportive (for the record, I do not mind that people are taking photos without asking, I think the fact I'm out protesting is a declaration that I want people to see me and encourage it - when I see someone pointing a phone I readjust so they can get a good pic).

Assuming I'm not sick again - I'll cover the last couple of weekends in the run-up to Christmas, to catch a few last-minute shoppers.

Finally - I wasn't feeling brave enough to post this when it was taken, although it was taken a while back, by a photographer who makes a series called 'Good Morning King's'. I'm near the bottom. Enjoy!

www.domininkas.com/good-morning-kings/

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maniacmagpie · 22/12/2018 00:27

Hello all,

Unfortunately I am not going to be able to make tomorrow and will be busy for the holiday season, so I won't be back til January. I'd like to summarise how the last few months have been in a longer post soon, but I can say one thing; it has been very emotionally draining. The support from this forum and feedback from posters here has been extremely valuable to me.

I hope you all have a good holiday break with friends and family. Let's hope 2019 brings the open discussion and respectful conversation that feminism sorely needs. I hope to continue to do my small part in pulllllllllling this climate of silencing and fear apart.

Magpie

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Socrates11 · 22/12/2018 14:40

Have a great/relaxing festive season manicmagpie. Take care of yourself and here's to a 2019 that puts 'gender stereotypes' in the bin Flowers

WonderWoman2019 · 22/12/2018 16:29

@maniacmagpie and all....just a "hello" to introduce myself as I'm located in Cambridge and feeling increasingly courageous about activism (been a radfem for decades but mostly kept it in my head Blush). 2019 I want to change that. Really happy to see this thread pop up!

milkmoustache · 22/12/2018 17:21

Another Cambridge supporter who has been lurking around the periphery of all this discussion. All power to you, magpie, I will look for you next time I am on the Parade and say hi.

Lefthanddown · 23/12/2018 22:16

Have a stress free Christmas and New Year Magpie. Hope to catch up with you in Jan.

ukcamstudent · 31/12/2018 13:12

Messaging all the people I see here who want to get involved - reminder that if anybody here wants to get involved please send either myself or maniacmagpie a PM! Real-world networking is so important, and a lot more fun as well!

maniacmagpie · 05/01/2019 02:02

Hi all,

I did get pretty bogged down over the festive period, so I haven't been terribly active on here.

I will be out on King's Parade Sat 5th (today) 2pm to 4pm, missing a weekend on the 12th, and then in general should be back on regular protesting and proper updates.

Good luck to those of you starting to feel braver and I hope to meet those of you in the area who have been lurking! Take your time, and when you're ready just remember we're out here. It would be wrong for us to pretend that this toxic (lack of) debate doesn't have real consequences when we start sticking our heads out. I hope that the things I have said about what's been directed my way haven't been putting people off, but I think it's right to be frank. This has been a nasty fight and some of us have lost friends and support. Many have fared worse than that.

Gender criticism and/or rad-leaning feminism has not made my life easier, but let me express and explain my difficulties, pain, and rage at things that are not my fault. Balancing this against the need to be kind is very hard. It is hard not to feel like you're simply being a bad person for the sake of it.

Kindness isn't about giving people what they want. I am under no obligation to set myself on fire to keep others warm. The same is true for you all. It is ok - honestly, really, truly ok - for you to ask, when others demand of you, what they are willing to give back to you.

Here's to 2019. Work to do, gals. Work to do.

Magpie

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AlwaysTawnyOwl · 05/01/2019 21:45

I've only just seen this posting and it's very thoughtful and interesting. I'm a middle aged mum and don't give a flying f* about being called 'transphobic' - the term is banded about so much for such nonsensical things that it has no meaning or force. I take it as a badge of honour - it means that I care about hard-won rights for women and girls. I went to A Womans Place meeting and afterwards got chanted at by a (rather soggy) group of (mainly) young men standing outside with a very sorry looking banner which no-one could read. Frankly they were a sad bunch and there is really no need to be in any way scared of them. I have always been a strong advocate for gay rights and don't think that transsexual people should be discriminated against in employment, victimised, harassed or abused in any way. That's why 'gender reassignment' is a protected characteristic in the Equality Act. But for TRAs this isn't about that. Self-id is about the rights of men to enter any female space they choose - be that women's meetings where they demand that discussion of female body parts is banned as 'not all women have them', women's sports where their greater body strength gives them an unfair advantage, women's changing rooms and dormitories where women are changing/sleeping, all-women shortlists and prizes designed to promote women in areas where they have faced hurdles to equality, even to women's own bodies. I am not lesbian but the cotton ceiling is particularly repugnant and makes me suspect that the motivations for many of those complaining about lesbians being unwilling to sleep with 'lady dick' are about a desire to 'do a lesbian properly'. Self-id is clearly wide open to abuse - and the unsavoury backgrounds of many prominent TRAs makes me very concerned - Jonathan/Jessica Yaniv clearly a paedophile and sex abuser, Karen White (not the only male prisoner transferred to a female prison and then abusing other female prisoners), Johanna/Jonathan Wolf and John Ozimek/Jane Fae advocate of 'extreme' porn - just for the record he/she wrote and uploaded to the internet a story fantasising about killings the members of a real female pop group, cutting up their bodies and having sex with their body parts. These are the people calling YOU 'transphobic'.

maniacmagpie · 18/01/2019 22:59

AlwaysTawnyOwl, you are quite right that 'transphobe' or 'TERF' has been slung around for such inane things that it has quite lost its power over me; however it's the women still caught doing the wifework for the entitled that are still affected by the sentiment.

I see it over and over again; the assertion that the only thing my detractors need do is champion their own empathy and their commitment to equality without exception. A righteous rage fills TRAs; they need not contemplate nuance, or consider that I may be a human just like them with compassion and empathy for people other than myself.

Over and over again 'TERFs' are compared to nazis and paedophiles online. Young people proudly throw the 'TERFs don't interact' as if this is meaningful activism, or throw 'trans people welcome!' as if people like us had ever said otherwise - as if that is a meaningful rebuttal.

My favourite so far has to be a flyby yell of 'trans people are people!'

Honestly - my empathy for lazy 'activism' is dropping and dropping. There is no attempt to engage with the issue, no actual care for whether the proposed solution might possibly help, and no care for the reasoning behind attacking women who speak out.
It is a thought-terminating cliche - nothing more. Let them steam. Let them shout.

They attack women because we are seen as soft, empathetic, and vulnerable. They attack women because they can count on our sympathy. They push women because they know we will pull out all the stops to help them.

My attention was recently directed to this:

ask.fm/cusutrans/answers/127641811152

Can sexual preference= transphobia? Im a cis woman, almost exclusively attracted to AFAB ppl (incl women + NB ppl) So Im attracted to women, but since Im generally not attracted to AMAB bodies, this cld mean that I wouldnt be attracted to transwomen. (1/2)
Make No Assumptions

q cont: "I see transwomen as women (which they are!) however I cant help having a sexual preference which favours + excludes certain different types of bodies. Therefore, is it transphobic to say 'I can be attracted to cis-women but generally not transwomen' ? (2/2)"

Firstly: you're assuming you know what a trans woman's body will look like. You assume you know what body parts she may or may not have. You need to have a serious think about why this is.

What is it about "AMAB bodies" that you aren't attracted to? Not all amab or afab people have the same bodies. There exist so many variations in people's physical characteristics that lumping bodies into those two categories is obsolete anyway. To assume that all amab or afab people will have certain characteristics, rather than just defining the characteristics you're attracted to, is kind of a weird way to go about it. It's inherently cissexist, transphobic, and buys into the concept of an infallible sex binary that just doesn't exist.

(Also: "cis women" with a space, but "transwomen" without one - why? "Trans" is an adjective just like "cis" is.)

I'm going to take a not-too-far leap and assume you're talking about being attracted, or not attracted, to certain genitalia. If so, examine your thought processes. When you see someone presenting feminine, does your mind immediately jump to what genitals they have before you consider whether or not you find them attractive? Or do you simply presume, based on other physical characteristics (what might be termed 'secondary sex characteristics')? If the latter, that's a cissexist presumption. Sure, we all do it. But we need to make sure we think twice.

Wanting to engage in certain sex acts, or interact with certain body parts, is a preference of sexual behaviour. It's not the same as attraction. If you met a cis woman who didn't want anyone to interact with her vagina, but loved anal sex, and you weren't into that, would you define yourself as not attracted to cis women because of that? You’re allowed to have preferences about what sex acts you want to indulge in and which ones you don’t, but don't conflate that with attraction.

Also: I'm sure you personally aren't violently transmisogynistic, but the same things that lead you to ask these questions are the things that lead to trans women's deaths. This sexuality related disgust is shared by men who treat trans women (especially trans women of colour) as sex objects. This disgust is by far the most common cause of their brutal murders.

I feel like you asked this question to be reassured that you're not transphobic/transmisogynistic. I'm not going to do that here. We /all/ are. We can't be uncritical about our assumptions and attractions. We all need to deconstruct the societal cissexism we've internalised.

Think about people, not bodies. Don't generalise physical characteristics to groups of people. And thanks for asking this question and being open to interrogating your own sexuality.

(emphasis mine)

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To my sister asking this question, wherever you are, I stand with you, and I am sorry, and I hope you are alright wherever you are. Homosexuality is natural, beautiful, and normal.

To whoever wrote this mess, quite frankly, fuck you. How dare you claim that not allowing a woman her boundaries will save trans'women' from violence. How dare you claim that a lesbian woman's sexuality can be likened to the sentiment that motivates men - men, men, MEN! to murder trans'women'! HOW DARE YOU!

Enough. You go after the empathetic, the people pleasers, the people you know you can bully into submission.

But you can't do that to me any more. How does it feel, to know I stand here, and I stand against you, and every dirty trick you pull to crush me - every dirty trick you pull to crush the doubt in empathetic, compassionate women - every dirty trick you pull to exploit our almost endless goodwill - hasn't worked?

Test your strength on me.

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I will be on King's Parade on Saturday (tomorrow) from 2pm to 4pm. The students are back. It will probably be noisier than last time.

Quite frankly I don't give a shit. I support women. I support men. I support trans people, and gay men, and lesbian women.

I don't need to capitulate to noisy, self-righteous conversion therapists to know this to be true.

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maniacmagpie · 22/01/2019 23:19

Hi all,

I am advertising on behalf of Cambridge Radical Feminist Network, which is having their first meeting of the term this Sunday:

www.facebook.com/events/2094798013875956/

The first topic is 'Sex and social constructivism'.

You can also follow them on Twitter @camradfems

twitter.com/camradfems

And one of our members has written a piece about Gender Neutral bathrooms, which can be found here:

medium.com/@imogengl/there-is-nothing-progressive-about-removing-women-only-bathrooms-37729064cfb7

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SisterWendyBuckett · 23/01/2019 10:56

Wow Magpie - that 'Can sexual preference = transphobia answer...

I'm lost for words - again.

maniacmagpie · 25/01/2019 11:22

Hi all,

I have had an epiphany, courtesy of Women's March London.

I believe the proper thing to do now is to show as many people as I can their words, so that we know better than to call menstruators by such an excluding, nasty, divisive term as 'women'.

To show that I know my place I will be wearing the red robe and white bonnet of the handmaid.

To show doubly that I have learned my lesson about speaking out, as does not befit my station, I will have my mouth taped shut.

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The protest will run from 2pm to 4pm tomorrow (Saturday). As it will be a silent protest, if you want to talk to me please wait until 4pm. You can DM me so that I'm expecting you, and of course if you do so within half an hour of me finishing I will probably still be loitering in the town centre. I will be glad to go and find a hot drink somewhere if you want a longer chat.

I welcome as many pictures as possible as it will be a very visual protest.

Magpie

Call for gender critical people in Cambridge, UK
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Gonzales27 · 25/01/2019 11:40

Well done @maniacmagpie , I've just read your OP and it is fantastic. Beautifully written.

I presume your protest is just local to Cambridge? Is there any inkling that this could be national?

maniacmagpie · 26/01/2019 10:43

@Gonzales27 I'm not planning on taking the show on the road but I have previously travelled to London for Let A Woman Speak and am actively interested in networking with gender critical groups.

Reminder to anyone coming out today that I will not be able to talk to anyone between 2pm and 4pm but welcome pictures, and am happy to discuss afterwards.

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Lefthanddown · 26/01/2019 17:57

Well done @maniacmagpie photos look great, but what did your sign on the floor say?

Are you happy for a photo from today to be posted here?

papayasareyum · 26/01/2019 19:13

I wanted to come over today, but couldn't. When will you next be there?

Itssadsometimes · 27/01/2019 12:57

Bumping to express admiration.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 27/01/2019 12:57

Congratulations on yesterday’s protest. How did it go?

Itssadsometimes · 27/01/2019 12:58

I was just teaching my son about Mary Wollstonecraft OP. For his GCSE.
Her spirit lives on in you

Bowlofbabelfish · 27/01/2019 17:02

I’m nowhere near Cambridge so I’d skipped this thread. I just want to express my admiration for you - you’re very brave.

Melroses · 27/01/2019 17:28

Not near Cambridge, but saw you on Twitter. Yeah Grin

TransposersArePosers · 27/01/2019 17:40

maniacmagpie I'm another one who skipped past your thread in the list as I am nowhere near Cambridge. Thanks to OrchidInTheSun for the thread about your silent protest which has brought me over here.

What you are doing is awesome, you are far, far braver than me!

RedemptiveCrocodile · 27/01/2019 20:20

Solidarity, sister. You are amazing!

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