John Ozimek (now Jane Fae) on women, feminists and victims of pornographers

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From the Skin Two Fetish yearbook, 2009 (Skin Two Issue 60), by John Ozimek, edited in 2012 by 'Jane Fae' (sorry I don't have the original John version) www.somethingdark.eu/downloads/Jane-Fae_Tyrannys-genesis-and-its-opposition_SDk-Latest-News_USL.pdf

'One of Labour’s first actions on coming to power was to put in place a group (of women) at the Home Office whose task it would be to steer a review of the law in respect of sexual activity.'

'Government would recoil in horror at a proposal to place men in charge of a review of the law on rape; yet, over and over, those at the heart of developing change in the field of sexual law have been female, feminist or exceedingly Christian. '

'It was David Blunkett, Home Secretary 2001–04 and a very committed Christian, who observed how wonderful it was to be surrounded by so many of like persuasion amongst his coven of Home Office special advisers.'

' SORT was widely considered to be an offshoot of radical feminism, with very little interest in views that clashed with their beliefs. The emphasis shifted very quickly from the rights of the individual to a focus on the perceived (female) “victim”. '

SORT focused 'the “consent” debate on the issue of when an individual might be said to have withdrawn consent.'

'they brought on board an academic team (three feminists, naturally) who carried out a wholly skewed rapid evidence assessment (REA) and concluded that yes, maybe extreme porn did cause harm.'

Sooooo:

• scare quotes around 'victim' (of sexual abuse)
• compares putting men (those who rape) in charge of rape law with putting women (those who get raped to make porn) in charge of porn law
• alludes to Blunkett's female advisers as witches
• sneering contempt for feminists

Note that since this was published in 2009, John Ozimek became Jane Fae, adviser of Girl Guides on safeguarding, and now identifies and is identified as a feminist (www.theguardian.com/profile/jane-fae). Which is strange considering previous contempt for feminism. Anyone would think it was all a strategy to undermine feminism. But no THAT NEVER HAPPENS.

It's so sad that the daughter flunked her exams because her dad was too selfish to wait until they were over. It's so sad to hear her trying to make out flunking actually benefitted her instead of being rightfully furious with her dad for traumatising her and changing the course of her life.

So sad.

Well, I suppose it stopped Jane's daughter going off and having a life away from their main influence...

Please don't mismom Jane. She is now her daughter's extreme-porn-loving mother not her father. Obviously.

That timing seems fucking spiteful. Maybe Jealous of her for being a teenage girl. So subconsciously opted to sabotage her future.

In a different article Fae talks gleefully about going through a second 'puberty' brought on by the hormones. What fucking timing. A teenager daughter and stepdaughter growing up in the same house.

Where do we begin to cover Clarice?

We covet what we see.

That article with Fae's daughter! Poor love having such a selfish bastard as a Dad

I'm sorry LemonJello, you're right . GG wouldn't just used JF as an advisor because they are trans. They see beyond that, and see the skills, experiences, passions and the motivation behind JF desire to remove safeguarding and dignity of girls. It's obviously to make a more inclusive society.

Would i be showing my age if I asked if inclusive is the new word for abusive?

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice Oh now I understand your username! Very clever

I love how that daily mail article refers to him as 'handsome'! On which planet would that be true, I wondee?

lol @ the suggestion that women on MN are talking about this because we are all v interested in extreme porn.

Yes that's EXACTLY what it's all about

The fact that they told their kid during / just before exams says it all really.

This "no complaints about the policy" stuff.

1. Girls aren't allowed to complain, they are to be re-educated and presuambly if that's not good enough then they are asked to leave
2. Adults who complain are chucked out as well >> would GG take any complaints about unexpected dick on away camps seriously? No of course not, TGAG and so it's like being racist. Would GG give any time to a parent or child who complained about sharing with a girl who was a different religion? No of course not. Why would they in this case it's the same
3. If and when it goes badly wrong, we have the usual >> oh you can report it after the event that's fine.No, trying to stop bad stuff happening with safeguarding children is wrong.
4. Most girls and women never report anything. If they know that they are supposed to ignore the evidence of their own eyes >> how can they even report anything? In the prison situation teh response to assualt reports was "you're making it up becasue you're transphobic". Girls are rarely believed TBH. This shows an utter lack of understanding of teh dynamics around all this. Quelle surprise from someone who says women being murdered by partners is just "DV gone wrong" because of their unexpectedly "eggshell skulls"
5. This policy is NOW getting much more well known. Creepy perves all over the net will be sharing it with each other. There will and always would have been an upswing in numbers of dicky people joining once some got wind of the fact they were allowed to AND go on away stuff AND for younger ones to share with the girls AND the girls would have no say in it AND their parents would not know

Awesome.

That was cruel and spiteful. That poor girl.

Your re-education certificate is in the post Zutt

Jane Fae's actions, not your post, Nothing.

How fucked up would it be if the fake-legal warnings on this thread were true and it was actually illegal for mothers to point out that children’s organisations were taking advice from extreme-pornography-defenders?

That’s one hell of admittance from the posters that tried to shut us up, ain’t it?

That’s one hell of admittance from the posters that tried to shut us up, ain’t it?

Yes. It’s a great demonstration of what they would like the law regarding gender recognition to be able to do.

Quite. The insistence that made up transgressions like deadnaming and misgendering are far beyond the pale, but extreme porn advocacy connected to children's organizations is too trivial to acknowledge is incredibly revealing about the motivations of these posters.

As some are won't to say, the 'optics' are not good.

But, but, Jane likes to knit.

Gawd placemats mumbling away there. I couldn't be arsed watching Fae.

Interesting to see extreme-porn advocate Fae being introduced as a 'feminist' in that clip, given the disdain Fae has for feminists.

It's almost like Fae wanted the term so Julie Bindel couldn't have it to herself.

I notice that the internet is fairly empty on the subject of John Ozimek - almost like a coat of whitewash has been applied 🙄
Trans-Teflon really is a cloak of invisibility.

Girl Guiding are denying taking advice from John Ozimek. Not sure if they know that it is the same person as Jane Fae?

Maybe Fae is one of the architects of the appropriation of feminism by the sex industry (the twatty so-called 'sex positives' who campaign for women to have the 'right' for our intimate orifices to be used as a male public conveniences).

It does seem rather deliberate, since Fae is completely sexist, hates feminists and makes light of VAWG.

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3300327-Feminists-Against-Censorship-Spearheaded-by-British-activists-Linda-Semple-and-Roz-Kaveney

We have never taken advice from this individual

Well thank fuck for that!

I wonder why Jane seems to think differently? Perhaps they would like to have sway with an organisation dealing with young girls. Much like those who would like gender recognition law to make deadnaming, and discussion of anything done under that deadname, illegal. Much like those who would like to be the opposite sex.

Lemon - I think it more likely that GG doesn't realise that Jane Fae used to be known as John Ozimek