John Ozimek (now Jane Fae) on women, feminists and victims of pornographers

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From the Skin Two Fetish yearbook, 2009 (Skin Two Issue 60), by John Ozimek, edited in 2012 by 'Jane Fae' (sorry I don't have the original John version) www.somethingdark.eu/downloads/Jane-Fae_Tyrannys-genesis-and-its-opposition_SDk-Latest-News_USL.pdf

'One of Labour’s first actions on coming to power was to put in place a group (of women) at the Home Office whose task it would be to steer a review of the law in respect of sexual activity.'

'Government would recoil in horror at a proposal to place men in charge of a review of the law on rape; yet, over and over, those at the heart of developing change in the field of sexual law have been female, feminist or exceedingly Christian. '

'It was David Blunkett, Home Secretary 2001–04 and a very committed Christian, who observed how wonderful it was to be surrounded by so many of like persuasion amongst his coven of Home Office special advisers.'

' SORT was widely considered to be an offshoot of radical feminism, with very little interest in views that clashed with their beliefs. The emphasis shifted very quickly from the rights of the individual to a focus on the perceived (female) “victim”. '

SORT focused 'the “consent” debate on the issue of when an individual might be said to have withdrawn consent.'

'they brought on board an academic team (three feminists, naturally) who carried out a wholly skewed rapid evidence assessment (REA) and concluded that yes, maybe extreme porn did cause harm.'

Sooooo:

• scare quotes around 'victim' (of sexual abuse)
• compares putting men (those who rape) in charge of rape law with putting women (those who get raped to make porn) in charge of porn law
• alludes to Blunkett's female advisers as witches
• sneering contempt for feminists

Note that since this was published in 2009, John Ozimek became Jane Fae, adviser of Girl Guides on safeguarding, and now identifies and is identified as a feminist (www.theguardian.com/profile/jane-fae). Which is strange considering previous contempt for feminism. Anyone would think it was all a strategy to undermine feminism. But no THAT NEVER HAPPENS.

Regarding name change. I'm always suspicious of those who change their name totally.

It is odd how a movement of people who just want to pee in peace constantly finds spokespeople who are creepy as all fuck.

I should be "I just want the right to pee... all over your seats".

You probably don't really want to know, but in the UK the Criminal Justice & Immigration Act 2008 makes it a criminal offence to possess or publish pornographic material that is grossly offensive, disgusting or otherwise obscene I obviously decided i did want to know and had a look at the .gov site.
It looks like rape is covered by this too (under 7A).
Does this mean all the rape porn and strangulation porn and the like that's on pornhub is in fact illegal to possess and publish? --------------I can;t do paragraphs either ----www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2008/4/section/63

To enlarge upon my public service announcement:

Beware people talking complete shite about the law. I'm seeing a lot on here, and I think it's a deliberate tactic to try to scare people into silence.

So - single sex spaces. Perfectly legal under the equalities act in order to satisfy a proportionate need. Thus, single sex rather than gender showers and changing rooms in a gym club, for e.g., are perfectly legal.

GRC - doesn't establish that someone has "literally" changed sex (because that would be impossible). It creates the legal fiction that in most but not all circumstances, the person with the GRC has the right to be treated legally as if they were a member of the sex on their GRC. It does not act as a carte blanche to gain access all areas - because the equalities act still allows for exceptions in the case of proportionate need for single sex spaces.

Misgendering - not a crime. In some circumstances, e.g. when used to deliberately harass and upset someone, you might be guilty of another crime, e.g. in this instance the crime of harassment (just as repeatedly phoning your ex at 3.00am to call him an adulterous shit would open you to a charge of harassment even if he was actually, as a matter of fact, an adulterous shit). But misgendering in and of itself is not a crime.

Deadnaming - similarly, not a crime. This should be posted as a sticky somewhere!

I feel grubby reading this thread. Sinister and sick. And very plain to see why certain people would like women to shut the fuck up about the people behind the glorious and progressive cause. We won’t though

Is there any petition about this, about this person advising Guides?

I can't stop thinking about this thread. What in hell have the Girl Guides been smoking, taking advice from someone who writes about how to delete extreme porn from your computer? I've really nothing new to say but then I remembered those posters trying to stop us talking about it so here's another bump.

Yes let’s keep it bumped. I’m sure someone will be sat in front of the computer, purple with rage, pounding away...at the keyboard obvs. Writing mumsnet themed fanfic.

I'm pretty sure some angry bloke must already have a file full of stories about what he wants to do to the women here.

"Slightly off topic, but someone pointed out the fascinating choice of names in many of these neowomen. " Am sure it's deliberate. E.g., 'Steph Woodcock', 'Paris Lees', ec.

Just popping up these screenshots from the other thread regarding Fae’s involvement with Girl Guiding.

If Jane Fae still went under that name of John Ozimek, would the GG still be so keen to be associated with them?

I’m sure Girl Guiding were just in the market for an extreme porn advocate to help them with their policy work regarding young girls. I know whenever I’m creating policy regarding the safeguarding of young girls, I always consult my local extreme porn advocate.

The fact that the extreme porn advocate happened to be trans is surely by the by.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/feb/18/gender-dysmorphia-daughter-dad-woman

This speaks volumes about Jane Fae. The poor daughter. My son sat his GCSEs this summer and the thought of a parent dropping news of such magnitude onto a kid at that particular moment in time is beyond comprehension.

Ah, I do so enjoy Fae's bullet point threads. The one I particularly enjoyed was the one where they pointed out that, in their opinion, murder was often domestic violence "gone wrong" and that murder in pretty boring to them. So, thanks Girlguiding for further exposing this person to the world.

If Jane Fae still went under that name of John Ozimek, would the GG still be so keen to be associated with them?

If GG have failed to do their due diligence when it comes to their advisors, then it's even worse. So, they either know about Fae's past and don't care or don't know and should give themselves a stern talking to. Sadly, it's young, vulnerable girls who will be the ones to suffer.

I’m sure Girl Guiding were just in the market for an extreme porn advocate to help them with their policy work regarding young girls. I know whenever I’m creating policy regarding the safeguarding of young girls, I always consult my local extreme porn advocate. The fact that the extreme porn advocate happened to be trans is surely by the by.

I'm looking forward to the 'Extreme Porn expert' badge...

Ah yes, the infamous 'men can't help inadvertently murdering women due to them having eggshell skulls' remarks

Zutt I’m going to have to call you out I’m afraid.

It’s pretty transphobic to claim that GG were only interested in Jane because of her trans status, when it’s patently clear that the reason GG were involved with Fae was because of her expertise regarding extreme porn advocacy, encompassing skills such as giving evidence in court as an expert witness in the defence of extreme porn, and how to wipe ones hard drive of “naughty piccies” that would warrant police investigation.

How dare you insinuate otherwise?

It’s pretty transphobic to claim that GG were only interested in Jane because of her trans status, when it’s patently clear that the reason GG were involved with Fae was because of her expertise regarding extreme porn advocacy, encompassing skills such as giving evidence in court as an expert witness in the defence of extreme porn, and how to wipe ones hard drive of “naughty piccies” that would warrant police investigation.

Do you think?

I’m incensed that Jane’s highly pertinent skill set is being dismissed as trans tokenism.

Thanks for those screenshots LemonJello - very useful to have Jane Fae confirming their own involvement even if Girl Guides are too shy to talk about it.

I bet Jane has devoted years to researching extreme porn, and Girl Guiding have simply recognised that dedication. I certainly recognise that dedication. I don’t know why Guides would be shy about it.