Trans Porn (she-cock, she-male, etc.)

[YetAnotherSpartacus]

Recently I had two encounters with trans porn. One was on here when a trans poster introduced the word 'she-cock' (I think it was) and another was when I tripped over someone IRL who writes trans porn. I've also been chatting with lesbian women who have left the 'queer' scene because they don't feel safe and a couple of gay men who have left because 'kink' and 'fetish has replaced 'gay' under the label of 'queer', which has got so broad that it includes almost anyone these days (but obviously excludes a lot too). I got curious.

Anyway, I took one for the team and did some research. I was actually shocked at what I saw - and I'm not (that) naive. I was shocked at the content and at the prevalence. I was disturbed because much of this porn is produced by individuals (amateur) and distributed on private twitter accounts and the like (from what I can tell it's very 'Jess Bradley' - the individuals concerned posting not for money but because they get off on exhibitionism.

This is NSFW - but it's one example

twitter.com/lisadumonde?lang=en

Here's another (equally NSFW)

www.reddit.com/r/transporn/.

Obviously, there are also copious commercial sites - pornhub and the like.

These are not individuals who are dysphoric though, from what I can see. They are individuals who get off on having tits and a cock and from seeing other individuals with tits and cock.

Disturbingly, when I looked up 'how to write trans porn', I found site after site that was more about fetish and kink than anything else - like this one www.sugarbutch.net/2015/11/best-queer-sex-blogs/ and quite a few like this one NSFW queer-oranges.tumblr.com/post/57189374716/tips-on-writing-porn-with-a-trans-character-in-it whre the main theme was 'acceptance' (the partner 'not knowing' but having sex anyway - and, obviously, enjoying it much more than ever before).

This leads me to a few tentative thoughts. One - I think we should introduce such porn to MPs whrn discussing self ID. Second, what Stonewall and others are doing by including 'kink' in with traditionally oppressed sexual minorities is really quite dangerous. Third, I really don't want to share my intimate spaces (toilets, changerooms) with some of the voyeur individuals above. Not that I'm advertising my own post :), but I've also posted about Planet Fitness and how the trans individual in the changeroom wasn't even using the gym at the time and also described herself thusly on social media

"I will be a male Slut-in-training on a leash held my mistress, Madame Domino, with a mask made of 2 pair of black panties covering my face and most of my head under a lurid black/red wig, with my ankles, knees and wrists tied together so I can only hobble helplessly in her wake…"

Thoughts?

These are not individuals who are dysphoric though, from what I can see. They are individuals who get off on having tits and a cock and from seeing other individuals with tits and cock.

Twitter search "tranny girl"
(*Be aware that this will access pornographic videos)

I did. That's how I got the above.

I also think that the ones who get themselves off using their prosthetic breasts must have massive physiotherapy bills.

Reddit ‘traps’ is also men with artificial hormone induced boobs getting their old chaps out on the internet (the fantasy being that they are feminine enough to fool other men into believing they are women until, surprise! Meat and two veg for supper).

I recently came across a poster describing their recent surgery,, including photos, of a ‘non standard vaginoplasty’ - essentially, a penis with a neo vagina fashioned from scrotum below.

This received lots of appreciative comments from other people saying that they would like similar but had not realised it was possible. Others who had already had the usual SRS professed sadness that this had not been an option offered to them, and even referred to the standard operation as ‘destructive vaginoplasty’.

Characters with penises AND vaginas are the focus of a particular type of anime porn - Futanari: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futanari

Knowing that such surgeries exist makes it very difficult to justify transwomen as ‘being born in the wrong body’

...if actual women had the option of extra body parts we’d go for an extra pair of hands.

I used to work on a phone sex chat line back in the 90s.

T girl narratives were common fantasies, including humiliation and forced ‘sissification’.

I’m a bit of a weird horder so I probably still have the workplace hand out somewhere...

I couldn't look at more than one image before making the cat's bum face and closing the tab but this...

I recently came across a poster describing their recent surgery,, including photos, of a ‘non standard vaginoplasty’ - essentially, a penis with a neo vagina fashioned from scrotum below.

I suppose the "why" is fairly obvious but, um, how? As in, is this an exceptionally large person and if not how is there room? And do they end up being all, oopsy, my penis feel into my pretendy vagina again, tee hee?

Male sexuality is a mess.

I think we need to blow this out of the closet (so to speak). Download pictures and screenshots and send to MPs and others.

i would not have such a problem with any of this as long as it stayed between consenting adults. whatever. not my thing but nor are fake tits and i have friends with those.

but how do you jump from "i want to have a cock and tits" to "i must now be considered female whenever i say so"? and accessing the provisions set up to counter the institutional sexism that women face?

I’m not going to link to it but ‘non standard vaginoplasty reddit’ will bring it up via google.

It basically looks like a split scrotum with a (supposedly fuckable) pocket inside.

Useful for smuggling though, I guess?

Whatever happened to medical ethics?

I guess if it was already a foregone conclusion that you'd eventually end up in prison it might come in handy for smuggling in contraband.

I just don't understand how anyone is supposed to want to fuck it, to be blunt. It's like getting hot and bothered about dentures, or a pacemaker - not part of the mental body map.

So those who have breast implants will claim that this is 'gender reassignment surgery' and the accusation that anyone querying this 'is obsessed with genitals' prevents further discussion?

Whatever happened to medical ethics?

Money trumps everything doesn't it?

Second, what Stonewall and others are doing by including 'kink' in with traditionally oppressed sexual minorities is really quite dangerous

I think this is a really important point and one which needs repeating often. Gay people have genuinely faced terrible oppression. I can't imagine for one moment being a lesbian and being ok with the current climate. It makes a mockery of what they've faced. A kink is not a sexual orientation

As much as I appreciate the sentiment behind it, please don’t send porn to your MP, you’ll get yourself arrested.

if actual women had the option of extra body parts we’d go for an extra pair of hands

If I was gay I'd be bloody furious that the orgs that claim to represent me have returned us to the idea that "gay" means "queer" means "assorted sexual deviants". Just when you thought most of society had moved past that kind of thinking.

I wonder how long it'll be before they officially include furries in the acronym.

As much as I appreciate the sentiment behind it, please don’t send porn to your MP, you’ll get yourself arrested

What do those who campaign against porn do? Surely a carefully worded piece of correspondence that draws on a couple of examples and isn't an offence?

There's definitely a link between porn consumption and the development of an autogynephilic sexual orientation, see for example in this piece where I look at the narratives of a number of 'trans women'. Of particular interest is that of Rachel Williams (came to trans via trans porn) and Sam Reidel (via anime):

Porn and Autogynephilia in the Narratives of Adult Transgender Males.

As for whether these people are 'real' trans or not, it all depends on what one means by 'dysphoria', which itself is not a discrete condition, rather manifests as depression and obsessive behaviour, amongst other things.

Framing autogynephilia as a chronic condition that evolves over time, I'd hypothesise its causation of dysphoria caused by what is in effect an 'unrequited love', e.g. the autogynephile is in love with themselves 'as a woman' and longs for that. So the question of whether they have dysphoria or not begs the question of whatever dysphoria may actually be.

Anne Lawrence's essay 'Becoming What We Love' provides an interpretation of AGP as a long-term romance. It's necessary reading for anyone who is interested in this phenomena.

As an aside, you will notice the online trans communities are awash with pornographic imagery and that the pro-trans lobby is aligned with the prostitution lobby.

One of my concerns is that online trans communities are also awash with underage kids, who really ought not to be seeing porn when they're looking for advice on (insert issue that one would not be expecting porn in response to here).

As for whether these people are 'real' trans or not, it all depends on what one means by 'dysphoria', which itself is not a discrete condition, rather manifests as depression and obsessive behaviour, amongst other things

Yes - to be honest, I was using the word because it is the accepted term.

Thanks for the links. I'll follow.

I expect some of them might enjoy it.

So porn is allowed on twitter?

But speaking out is denied, blocked and banned?

Who or what runs twitter?

Bare breasts that are sexualized are OK on Facebook, but not pictures of women breast feeding...

Just to clarify my statement 'as for whether these people are 'real' trans or not, it all depends on what one means by 'dysphoria', which itself is not a discrete condition, rather manifests as depression and obsessive behaviour, amongst other things' what I am trying to get at is whether dysphoria is necessary for 'real trans', and whatever 'real trans' may actually mean, it does not mean that men can become women.

Oh my god, there's trans porn? Just like there is straight porn, gay porn, lesbian porn, bdsm porn, in fact every type of porn you can imagine. What a discovery!