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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Man pretends to have Downs and hires young women to change his nappy

67 replies

IamalsoSpartacus · 14/09/2018 16:33

Also requires them to wash his genitals. He is often sexually aroused when they are changing him.

He is now on trial for sexual abuse.

But men would never pretend to be transgender in order to abuse women, would they.

www.wfla.com/national/man-pretends-to-have-down-syndrome-hires-caregivers-to-bathe-him-change-his-diapers/1440711337

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littleducks · 14/09/2018 16:38

A school crossing guard

Anlaf · 14/09/2018 16:39

Jesus Christ

Does this beat "man climbs into septic tank to spy on woman and child using toilet"?

www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/08/kenneth-webster-enlow-septic-tank-spies-_n_3562103.html?guccounter=1

Melanippe · 14/09/2018 16:40

The lengths that these men go to so access their victim pool and/or their fetish, sometimes years of study just to get there and people are seriously suggesting that they won't say a simple sentence to do it? How simple do they think we are?

VickyEadie · 14/09/2018 16:42

The lengths that these men go to so access their victim pool and/or their fetish, sometimes years of study just to get there and people are seriously suggesting that they won't say a simple sentence to do it? How simple do they think we are?

THIS.

terryleather · 14/09/2018 16:44

I'm sure there was another case like this i think it might have been in Canada...? Iirc it was a student that insisted he needed to have his nappies changed by female members of staff.
What the fuck is this nappy stuff all about????

IamalsoSpartacus · 14/09/2018 16:44

I think a lot of people are very naive and prefer not to educate themselves about the cesspool of male fetish.

We're told not to kink-shame but I think it should be shameful to be aroused by nappies and other artefacts of childhood and infancy.

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Truckingonandon · 14/09/2018 16:44

He needs a hobby.

IamalsoSpartacus · 14/09/2018 16:46

Terry - this case? No protection for the women involved. Just lke putting a rapist in women's prison - we really don't matter, do we.

www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-island-university-fetish-student-professor-fired-1.4400306

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womanformallyknownaswoman · 14/09/2018 16:47

Oh god, when you think some men can't get any more deviant ...

  • so there's the recipe - children, using disability as a cover for sexual deviancy, adult baby fetish with nappies and then deceit to get aroused by women duped into thinking he was something he's not - sound familiar? They have no morals nor shame and are prepared to go to any lengths.....

I do have a question though - what did all these deviant men do before disposable nappies? I presume cloth ones wouldn't appeal as much, if at all, as they aren't as easily got rid of - and it would have involved them in actual unpaid work to wash and dry them...

terryleather · 14/09/2018 16:47

I'm not naive about the existence of so many fetishes, it's more about how common they seems to be and the nappy one is definitely having a moment!

FloralBunting · 14/09/2018 16:48

I cannot even click on the link. I have already reached my quota of extremely fucking awful creepy shit in the world today.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 14/09/2018 16:48

Always assuming they were doing the work and not their "helpers"

IamalsoSpartacus · 14/09/2018 16:50

terry, the thread moved a bit quick. My comment about people being naive was in response to Melanippe's comment about people refusing to accept that men will abuse self-ID.

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womanformallyknownaswoman · 14/09/2018 16:50

Deviancy in the News of the World once a week was one thing - hourly deviancy updates x global is something else

terryleather · 14/09/2018 16:51

Yes that's the one Iamalso - that case was shocking wrt how the female staff were treated by the university.

IamalsoSpartacus · 14/09/2018 16:52

The comment from one of the Canadian women is very telling:- ""He was involving me into his fantasy life. Into his fantasy play."

This is why I don't want fetishists in female spaces. And a GRC is one very sensible way of separating a person with dysphoria from a person who wants to flash his lady-cock for kicks.

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womanformallyknownaswoman · 14/09/2018 16:52

oh and one loose end (so to speak;)) - I don't get where he was being washed if not at his home. Anyway, I will live with it..

IamalsoSpartacus · 14/09/2018 16:53

sorry. *her ladycock. Wouldn't want to get banned for misgendering.

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Wilhemenawonka · 14/09/2018 16:53

The lengths that these men go to so access their victim pool and/or their fetish, sometimes years of study just to get there and people are seriously suggesting that they won't say a simple sentence to do it? How simple do they think we are?

This! It is NOT TRANSPHOBIC to say that this is a worry

LangCleg · 14/09/2018 16:54

what did all these deviant men do before disposable nappies

This is not something I wish to spend much time pondering!

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 14/09/2018 16:54

I am really disturbed by the details of David Challenor's rape and torture of a 10 y.o. I think most of us can empathize with her pain and terror but the fact that this was all happening while her assailant was dressed in an adult sized little girl costume and telling her he was a 6 y.o called Lucy makes it so much more creepy and disgusting.

I can't stop thinking about it. So grotesque. And this man was a Scout leader...

IamalsoSpartacus · 14/09/2018 16:56

*woman, he couldn't be washed at his home because he lived with his parents who knew full well he wasn't disabled. He was busted when one of the caregivers followed him home.

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womanformallyknownaswoman · 14/09/2018 16:57

what did all these deviant men do before disposable nappies

This is not something I wish to spend much time pondering!

Shame - I was toying with having it as a PhD subject - maybe at Goldsmiths as I hear they have lots of expertise in some subjects

hackmum · 14/09/2018 16:58

I'm also perpetually astonished by the naivety of people. Abusers will go to any length to gain access to victims. That's why they become doctors, teachers, priests, care workers, scoutmasters. That's why they put hidden cameras in toilets. And that's why, yes, they will say they are transgender and dress up in a skirt and make-up if they think it gives them more opportunity to be close to potential victims.

I remember when the Jimmy Savile revelations started coming out and some people said, "But at least he did a lot of work for charity!" Yes, he did! So he could gain access to victims! He worked in hospitals not because he loved helping out in hospitals but because it gave him a ready supply of child victims who couldn't escape.

But I had the argument on FB the other day. I was trying to explain how self-ID enabled men to pose as trans so they could sexually abuse children. One of my friends got very upset and said she knew lovely trans people and how dare I say that about trans people etc. It's really exasperating. Can it honestly be that hard to understand the point that this is about abusers using self-ID to gain easy access to victims?

terryleather · 14/09/2018 17:01

No worries Iamalso!

*The comment from one of the Canadian women is very telling:- ""He was involving me into his fantasy life. Into his fantasy play."
*
This is why I don't want fetishists in female spaces.

This is the crux of it, isn't it.

I'm fucked if me or any other woman or girl should have to put up with this - knowingly against their will or unwittingly.

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